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Here is a read only link to the Aerodrome Database - WhichAerodrome.xlsx. Up to date as of 1/5/2019. Catching up slowly - up to May 2019 now (Mar 2020).

Here are some "rules" for Which Aerodrome. These are based upon the original suggestions from the very first thread, and have a few additions. Also please be patient as when you are active others may be asleep.
  • A historic picture of an aerodrome will be posted. Newer pictures are allowed but the theme here is to compare/contrast old with new as well as identifying aerodromes which no longer exist.
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Old 17th Dec 2016, 18:27
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Yeah, bro!
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Bit of research into road markings from here - blimey, you get led into the weird and wonderful on this thread.
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Hmmm, looks like the Te Marua? gliding site just north of Upper Hutt. I last flew from there 25 years ago - is it still open?
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Old 17th Dec 2016, 19:36
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siftydog,

That's the one, Kaitoke Airfield, home of the Hutt Valley Gliding Club. I stumbled across it on GE, when I was looking for information relating to the recent Rimutaka Incline thread on Jet Blast.

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Old 17th Dec 2016, 20:53
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Have to make it OH, though I've got a couple of tinkers from some old slides I'll copy for another challenge. SD
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Here we go then - a slightly different one from me



Here's a link to the full-sized image as there is a huge amount of detail lost as I've had to shrink it down from 23465px to 1024px wide - although I have obscured the writing which gives away the name, date & photographer.

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Old 18th Dec 2016, 20:13
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What a great photo. Thanks for posting it.
blimey, you get led into the weird and wonderful on this thread
I have just learned that the US Army Air Force marking started as a plain red star, then it changed to a roundel for commonality with other WW1 allies.
That means the aircraft are not British or French as I originally thought.
So that makes the aircraft Curtiss JN-4s (Jennys) around 1918.


The hangars seem to match with this photo.


I'll go for it being Dallas Love Field (KDAL) just after America entered WW1.
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Old 18th Dec 2016, 20:19
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It's not in Dallas, but you do have the right state


edit to add - the date of the photo is Jan 5 1919
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I have just learned that the US Army Air Force marking started as a plain red star, then it changed to a roundel for commonality with other WW1 allies.
Two observations:

1. What would the Russian Airforce have done if the red star was not available?

2. I now know what the DH-4's markings are, in Kiwithrottlejockey's great photos:



http://www.pprune.org/aviation-histo...ml#post9612142

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Old 18th Dec 2016, 22:44
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It's not in Dallas, but you do have the right state
OK. I'll move along then.
Kelly Field ?

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Old 18th Dec 2016, 22:52
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You have it in two - Kelly Field it is. I've changed the photo and links to the in-edited images - name in the centre, photographer on one of the buildings on the right.

Fascinating panoramic photo, and the level of detail is amazing. I do wonder what they are doing in the centre of the image. Holding hands?

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Old 18th Dec 2016, 23:08
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I do wonder what they are doing in the centre of the image. Holding hands?
It looks like they are forming the number "30" to be photographed on the fly-past. Perhaps for a #30 class photo?
Maybe the aircraft arrived a bit early before they had finished.
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Old 18th Dec 2016, 23:21
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Staying on the same theme then.
Here is another; same era, same purpose, but nothing like the same scale.
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Old 18th Dec 2016, 23:25
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Fly past?

The photograph was taken from the water tower.

I think the letters are "SO" plus two others in the process of forming or breaking up. A panoramic photo like that would take perhaps a minute to take.

What surprises me about the picture is that I can't see any* automobiles or trucks.

*Whoops, let's change that to very few - perhaps five.
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Old 18th Dec 2016, 23:51
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The photograph was taken from the water tower.
Yeah. I hadn't noticed the tower as I was just looking for matching hangars.
I thought it was amazing resolution to get from an airborne camera so long ago.
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Is it both a land and water drome?
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Is it both a land and water drome?
Ah. You spotted my cunning cropping of the photo.
Yes, it was also once a seaplane base too.
Here is a photo of some seaplanes there in 1925 that could misdirect you completely.
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Old 19th Dec 2016, 11:34
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According to Wiki, USS Richmond:

In January 1925, Richmond, flagship of Light Cruiser Divisions, Scouting Fleet, again participated in Caribbean exercises. In February, she transited the Panama Canal and during March trained off the California coast. In April, she steamed to Hawaii for joint Army-Navy maneuvers, after which she joined the Battle Fleet for a good will cruise to Australia and New Zealand.
For the misdirect then - not in the US, so either the Panama canal area, Australia or New Zealand?


Possibly Point Cook - if what I thought was a slipway is a jetty/pier (bloody long one), the buildings seem to match up.

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Old 19th Dec 2016, 16:53
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Coco Solo?
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Old 19th Dec 2016, 18:01
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There was a ramp at the end of the jetty.


Point Cook it is. (or RAAF Williams for Dora-9 )
Point Cook is the oldest continuously operating military airfield in the world.
It started in 1914 with some leading edge technology like a Bristol Boxkite.



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You can download free .pdf copy of the history.

at http://airpower.airforce.gov.au/publ...1914-2014.aspx

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