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Here is a read only link to the Aerodrome Database - WhichAerodrome.xlsx. Up to date as of 1/5/2019. Catching up slowly - up to May 2019 now (Mar 2020).

Here are some "rules" for Which Aerodrome. These are based upon the original suggestions from the very first thread, and have a few additions. Also please be patient as when you are active others may be asleep.
  • A historic picture of an aerodrome will be posted. Newer pictures are allowed but the theme here is to compare/contrast old with new as well as identifying aerodromes which no longer exist.
  • The person who correctly identifies it will be declared the 'winner' by the original poster.
  • That winner shall either post another challenge or declare the floor open. Anyone may then post the next challenge.
  • If the winner of the challenge does not respond to the notification of their success within 48 hours, an Open house can be declared when there is consensus between multiple other posters which are on line.
  • When the poster of a challenge does not respond within 48 hours of a posted answer, this poster can be declared winner if the answer is considered correct in a consensus of multiple other posters.
  • If Open House is declared, regular posters should not jump in immediately, but time should be given for those who are not great at naming the correct location as they may have some good images.
  • There will only be one challenge running at a time.
  • Try to use elderly photos and not Google Earth, Zoom Earth or any other search engine, pics
  • Try to post images that are not already present on internet, as Google Image Search will find them if they are.
  • Personal photos are acceptable as they show the aerodrome as it is now.
  • When confirming the correct location, the location and winner should be stated to negate any deletion of posts.
  • Please don't delete your posts, let everyone see your successes, failures and challenges.
Anyone can edit it so long as they have been here for 90 days with 90 posts. Let's get consensus before changing and not go crazy Thanks to Self Loading Bear for suggesting that we use a wiki. Which Aerodrome I Which Aerodrome II nvubu.

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Old 20th Oct 2018, 21:42
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Just in case the newer contributors to the thread haven't read it, the first post of the original Which Aerodrome contains some suggested rules that seem to have been overlooked recently. Here is a link to the thread: Which Aerodrome?

Also, I've been updating the aerodrome list that Mel started. Unfortunately, I'm about 18 months behind right now, but I'll try to get it up to date over the next few weeks - https://1drv.ms/x/s!AsBD9MvRbikxl3cYfdKz-hT8F_At
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A historic picture of an aerodrome will be posted. Newer pictures are allowed but the theme here is to compare/contrast old with new as well as identifying aerodromes which no longer exist.


That has not been the case for a long time. The latest is not even an aerodrome.
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Old 20th Oct 2018, 22:06
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To all,

my apologies,
I understand my Changi challenge and this latest one are indeed to far outside the rules.
i have no objection to play by the rules but will think about another thread.

I therefore declare open house.

For those who would like to solve my last challenge:
Although the stadium was intended to be used as an Aerodrome, this challenge will now be out of competion.
you can PM me with your suggestions/questions.
if I have enough replies we will open a broader thread.

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Old 20th Oct 2018, 22:09
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Originally Posted by dook
The latest is not even an aerodrome.
That's why I thought it worth posting the initial link.

It also says: As in Which Cockpit, lets try to use elderly photos and not Google Earth pics.

Unfortunately, the latter has become the norm recently.

SLB: Changi was a good/unusual challenge - you need to be aware though that posting images that already exist on the internet make them very easy to find using Google Image Search - although there has been in the past an agreement not to use this method as t makes it too easy.
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Old 20th Oct 2018, 22:54
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The photo I posted of Changi was previously posted in an Airlinereporter blog of David Parker Brown
(I promised that I would give credits)

Dook was very lucky to find a slightly different photo by a Google search (not Google Image)
I think the following part of the rules is the most important:
....Newer pictures are allowed but the theme here is to compare/contrast old with new as well as identifying aerodromes which no longer exist.

I think I did not comply for Changi as it was not about differences old versus nowadays.
My Port Harcourt challenge was also with internet photo’s but was about (non) differencies 2014-2018.

To keep the thread interesting i think we should emphasise that we not only solve the challenge but also discuss the changes then and now.
Either from own experience or by posting additional photos.

Lets go for the better thread.

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SLB,

Thank you for declaring open house. Here's a real and also vintage photo. This is looking in the preferred takeoff direction. The other direction was more challenging!

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Old 21st Oct 2018, 00:24
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Blue Mountain,? Laos...home of the Hmong >>>?
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 00:40
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Good guess, sycamore, but not correct. No Hmong here, but it is in Montagnard country.

PS A bit late for you or is east Essex in a different time zone?
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 08:58
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No Sycamore is a 24 hour day man, good old British stock.
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Is this strip still in use ?

Tay Nguyen area maybe.

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Mang Buk ?
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 13:36
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Dak Pek

found reference on:
Dak Pek, B Co, 2nd BN, 1968

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I thought it might be Dak Seang.

With no images and nothing further from the OP it's just a bit of a guessing game.
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dook,

The strip is still in use, but only by cars and motorcycles.

None of the new guesses is correct. Here is the view the other way:



Note: the words on the building translate as Town Hall.

This strip was a satellite to a much busier one just down the road. Mostly used by FAC O-1s, but also by Caribous!

In latitude terms, it is north of Tay Ninh but south of Da Lat.
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 21:01
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Bao Loc? …..
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Dook - regarding Bergen, there's a much larger bunker complex just 1300 m to the NW of the one you've shown.
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Old 22nd Oct 2018, 04:18
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Not Bao Loc. As an aside, I thought myself quite knowledgeable about airfields in South Vietnam, but I had never heard of any of the suggestions above - nor my "mystery aerodrome" come to that. It is amazing how many airstrips there were.

I have not been able to find Bao Loc, but given the description in this article, it can't be far away from my challenge:
http://183seahorse.org/uploads/files...SIFRtoPhan.pdf

The strip is north-south with the mountain to the south. It is currently the "main drag" of a small town which has a different name from that of the airfield. The airfield name is the same as its parent airfield to the west, but with a suffix added. The small town's two-word name would be considered amusing/risqué to English speakers who are not familiar with Vietnamese. In fact, the first word is a fairly common girl's name and the town's name has been co-opted by a coffee shop chain, which causes amusement to tourists in Saigon.
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Old 22nd Oct 2018, 06:37
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It might not be called Bao Loc - which should be on this link https://goo.gl/maps/J7M22W5L12N2 Not N/S, so definitely not the mystery airfield.
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Old 22nd Oct 2018, 07:19
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nvubu,

That's interesting - a very similar runway layout but as you say the wrong direction and there is no mountain. Unlike your Bao Loc, there is no obvious evidence of the runway anymore - it's just a street. The Bao Loc in the link I posted is referred to as being near the Cambodian border, so it must be a different one. Your Bao Loc is east of my location.

The parent airfield of my posted pictures was on a large Fire Support Base a few kilometres southwest. The FSB had a different name from the co-located airfield.
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Is it near Dong Xoai ?

Phuc Long is a great name.
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