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Here is a read only link to the Aerodrome Database - WhichAerodrome.xlsx. Up to date as of 1/5/2019. Catching up slowly - up to May 2019 now (Mar 2020).

Here are some "rules" for Which Aerodrome. These are based upon the original suggestions from the very first thread, and have a few additions. Also please be patient as when you are active others may be asleep.
  • A historic picture of an aerodrome will be posted. Newer pictures are allowed but the theme here is to compare/contrast old with new as well as identifying aerodromes which no longer exist.
  • The person who correctly identifies it will be declared the 'winner' by the original poster.
  • That winner shall either post another challenge or declare the floor open. Anyone may then post the next challenge.
  • If the winner of the challenge does not respond to the notification of their success within 48 hours, an Open house can be declared when there is consensus between multiple other posters which are on line.
  • When the poster of a challenge does not respond within 48 hours of a posted answer, this poster can be declared winner if the answer is considered correct in a consensus of multiple other posters.
  • If Open House is declared, regular posters should not jump in immediately, but time should be given for those who are not great at naming the correct location as they may have some good images.
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Old 16th Feb 2017, 08:17
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jensdad is correct! Turnhouse in 1966:



The main runway was designated 13/31, with 13 having Turnhouse's only ILS. (Some of us cut our insstrument-rating teeth flying it in a 2000-foot wind of 270/30-40...)** It is now designated 12/30. The civil apron can be seen on the right of the photo, and is still used. Rwy 26, with its final approach over a down-sloping golf course, is closed. The apron in the middle of the photo, with a black hangar to its left, may have belonged to Ferranti?

In the background, today, would be the current main runway, 06/24, with an ILS on both ends. That was built in the 1970s, and originally designated 07/25. Careful inspection of the Google satellite-view reveals the residual mark "7"under the "6" of the "06" at the runway threshold.

For those who've never been there to admire it, here's the view to the left on Finals to what is now Rwy 12:

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Old 16th Feb 2017, 09:54
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The apron in the middle of the photo, with a black hangar to its left, may have belonged to Ferranti?
It did indeed. They used to operate some interesting aircraft from Turnhouse in those days, including 3 Canberras, a civil-registered Meteor and a Dakota with a Lightning radar nose.
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What a/c was the last pic. taken from...?
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What a/c was the last pic. taken from...?
That vicious-looking wing fence could only belong to a One-Eleven.

BUA, presumably, judging from the location and the era.
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Yes, both photos taken on the "Inter-Jet" from Airwick Gatport one early-summer's day in 1966, at a ticket price of about £5 if memory serves. BUA was the launch customer for the 1-11, which had only been in service about 12 months. Despite the handicap of being based at LGW, the Inter-Jet services to EDI and GLA proved popular with businessmen. Hot meals were served, whereas you were lucky to get a sandwich on the BEA Vanguard from LHR.
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Yes, I am wrong. I was there in '73-'74 & the mists of time have addled my brain ! I think I must have got EGPH 26 confused with EGPD 24 (where I was from '76 - 78). At my age, all these runways seem the same !
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Yes, so much simpler in the single-runway CIs...
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I thought I recognised that runway that ends abruptly where it crosses 12/30! Really interesting to see the complete photo. The main apron was miniscule.


Open House.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 00:30
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That vicious-looking wing fence could only belong to a One-Eleven.

BUA, presumably, judging from the location and the era.
Dave, never mind the wing fence - what are those bulbous objects on the trailing edge? Special drag-inducing bullets?

I had a quick look at GE to see if those fields are still there and was surprised to see that they mostly are, but I also noticed that you were probably on a downwind leg, rather than final.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 07:06
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Dave, never mind the wing fence - what are those bulbous objects on the trailing edge? Special drag-inducing bullets?
On the contrary, they're "speed bullets" à la Coronado, to reduce drag as the aircraft approaches Mach 1.

Joking aside, I would imagine the canoes are flap track/screwjack fairings - I didn't have much to do with One-Elevens when I used to play with aeroplanes as BA's rarely came to LHR.

I had a quick look at GE to see if those fields are still there and was surprised to see that they mostly are, but I also noticed that you were probably on a downwind leg, rather than final.
It's Chris's photo, not mine, but it's definitely taken from an aircraft on finals for 13, having completed its procedure turn after overflying the airport. The diagonal road is the old B800 between Kirkliston and South Queensferry, with Milton Farm on the extreme left.
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Quotes from India Four Two:
"I also noticed that you were probably on a downwind leg, rather than final."

Do try to pay attention, double-oh-seven...

And:
"Dave, never mind the wing fence - what are those bulbous objects on the trailing edge? Special drag-inducing bullets?"

'Sixties boat fairings, as Dave says, which evolved into what you see on Airbuses today. Don't know why they were so rounded at the trailing edge though. As no one has produced another aerodrome yet, but at risk of competing with the "Which aircraft?" thread, this photo was taken from another 1-11/200 a few days earlier, while taxiing for take-off at Turnhouse with, from the look of it, 8-deg of flap set:


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Early 1-11s had flap track fairings that moved with the flap as per the photo.
Later ones from the 500srs on, except the 510s of BEA had a fixed fairing with a more pointed aft end.
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lets try an easy one for a Sunday................

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P- LEASE!!!!!!

Teeside International these days.........

over to you
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P- LEASE!!!!!!

Teeside International these days.........

over to you
Last I heard it was 'Durham Tees Valley Airport' but that was last week!
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HMS Ark Royal (R09)?
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HMS Bulwark ?
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HMS Eagle?
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HMS Eagle?
Definitely.
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I will answer should there be a stab at the 'field.
RAF Maseira?
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