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Old 29th Oct 2011, 11:17
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Moved edit to keep it in correct time,

Looking at the clues, is it a Falconar F11A ??

Edit: Just seen weather forecast and off to do grass now, so Open House please if correct!
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Quite a few around, and it is in Aerofiles, but no piccie
Hmmm...odd? Looking now...
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 11:26
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Falconar F11A
Looking suspended.....
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Looking at the clues, is it a Falconar F11A ??
That'll do...I have it as the Falconar F11 (without the A), which was based on the Jodel D11 (that was the connection Graeme). So well done Trevor



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Old 29th Oct 2011, 11:33
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That guy is good. Solves challenges in between the gardening chores.

Okay Ken...another kitplane.....

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Old 29th Oct 2011, 11:45
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Not an inspiring silhouette and I had to draw the muffler/exhaust on as it was missing from the 3-view, so I'll toss a pic in as well mate...after all, it's the weekend.

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Mmm, thought it looked familair - until I saw the picture!

An Amercian design.....1960's?
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American.
Mid-nineties.
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and it is in Aerofiles, but no piccie
The company concerned is in the "B"' section but this model isn't even mentioned. Needless to say, no photo.

But it is illustrated on the net.
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Sunday is 20 minutes away. I'll let you do your gardens and check things in the morning. Of course, find it, and you know the drill.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 14:49
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The company concerned is in the "B"' section but this model isn't even mentioned
Well that had me scouring around for a while. Having got nowhere I decided to take a look in an old Brassey's guide I have - and I found reference to the aircraft below. Surely it has to be?



But, it is in Aerofiles...the Brutsche Freedom 180 from 1995.

There are earlier models, going back to the 80's, but they all bear the Freedom name.

Trevor....if you've done your lawn (must have a big garden if you haven't), what do you reckon?
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 15:04
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Rain stopped play mate, but got the grass cut OK plus some other work ,

Just been looking at Graeme's challenge. I was going to say it's the Brutsche Freedom 28 (also shown as the 28/40), it is earlier and not mentioned in Aerofiles, which shows the Freedom 180 to be a four-seater, Graeme's looks like a single (as does your photo)!

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Hi Trevor...nice to see our rain has spread! It's finally stopped here.

Well the Freedom 180 is described as a 4 seater but the picture certainly looks very much like Graemes?

Found a photo of the Freedom 28 and it appears not to have the visible engine exhaust, and more importantly was around and flying in 1986 when it one a prize at Oshkosh! Graeme had said it was from the mid 90's.
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My current thoughts are that the Freedom 28 was the earlier one at Oshkosh in '86 and that a version called the Freedom 40 appeared in the nineties! Your photo looks like a single and I suspect it's a 40 and wrongly labelled.

The photo of a 28/40 in my first link above, does show the exhaust, so maybe that's not a 28 either, and the forty was another model

Edit: It seems the designer Neal Brutsche died in 2003 and on a homebuilt forum someone was replying to his brothers announcement and obit said he was looking for plans eight years earlier for the Freedom 40

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From what I can see there is a Freedom 28, a 40, a 180 and a 180STOL. There is also something called a Sport Utility. But not too many pictures!

The 28 is too early...can't find a year for the 40....the 180 is the right vintage...

Think we had better wait for Graeme

Edit, you realise we could get a few of these courtesy of Graeme's AeroCrafters magazine!
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Sorry Ken, very windy here now, the line dropped out and wouldn't re-connect

My money's on the Freedom 40, but like you say, I can't find a year and Fright Archive shows nothing at all for Brutsche! Aviastar lists the models but again not the years!!

you realise we could get a few of these courtesy of Graeme's AeroCrafters magazine!
So long as Graeme sticks to subjects that are on the Web, like this one appears to be (although not a cut and dried conclusion) I'm easy with that thought

Several mentions of AeroCrafter in queries about Freedom 28 and 40, but all lead to dead ends

I've got to pop out now and then get a meal ready and I expect you're the same, not many others about so content to await Graeme's call
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Good evening - just having a look.

Think we had better wait for Graeme
I do not think so.
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Brutsche Freedom 180
As far as I am concerned, Ken has it and should post another challenge.

However, if you all think not, then you can wait.

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Old 29th Oct 2011, 17:34
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I am probably biased, but one thing I think we are all agreed on is that it is the Brutsche Freedom, but some doubt on the model number. Personally I believe Graeme would have accepted the Freedom, BUT, his comment that it is not mentioned in Aerofiles does nag at me. Trevor, LM says go...if you agree then I'll put up the next one.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 18:34
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Evening Ken,

Sorry for the delay in responding to your last post, but I only I just got back home!

I think that there's quite a bit of confusion surrounding the various model numbers and photos, however, like you say, Graeme said it wasn't on Aerofiles (which the 180 is), maybe (for the sake of Mel's list) he will have a definitive answer, but I agree that he would probably have been happy to accept just Brausche Freedom as a valid answer, so please go ahead and post another challenge!

I'm going to be in the kitchen for a while, but will try and have a crack at it (without burning the house down I hope)

Go for it Ken

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