Vanguard G-APEP arrival at Brooklands
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Where, when and which was the last ever Vanguard/Merchanman flight ?
At risk of thread drift likewise for the Viscount?
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At risk of thread drift likewise for the Viscount?
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I thought so but I was curious to see if one of her sisters had carried on a little bit longer. I recall one was sprayed up in full Hunting colours, expensive for end of service ?
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I didn't have the time to look up the exact date yesterday. It was delivered to Brooklands on 17 October 1996, if my memory isn't playing tricks on me it flew from East Midlands airport to Brooklands. There used to be a website about 'EP but it has been offline for a while now. Here is a capture of the site from 2013 courtesy of the Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20130718...rchantman.com/
The story is a bit different for the Viscount, it is believed that the last airworthy Viscount, 9Q-COD, last flew in January 2009 for Global Airways in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (according to Wikipedia). There is an excellent site about the type here: A Virtual Museum dedicated to the Vickers-Armstrongs ViscountFurther details are not available unfortunately. As the most succesful of the Vickers turboprops, the Viscount's history deserved a more dignified ending if you ask me.
The story is a bit different for the Viscount, it is believed that the last airworthy Viscount, 9Q-COD, last flew in January 2009 for Global Airways in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (according to Wikipedia). There is an excellent site about the type here: A Virtual Museum dedicated to the Vickers-Armstrongs ViscountFurther details are not available unfortunately. As the most succesful of the Vickers turboprops, the Viscount's history deserved a more dignified ending if you ask me.
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I didn't have the time to look up the exact date yesterday. It was delivered to Brooklands on 17 October 1996, if my memory isn't playing tricks on me it flew from East Midlands airport to Brooklands. There used to be a website about 'EP but it has been offline for a while now. Here is a capture of the site from 2013 courtesy of the Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20130718...rchantman.com/
The story is a bit different for the Viscount, it is believed that the last airworthy Viscount, 9Q-COD, last flew in January 2009 for Global Airways in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (according to Wikipedia). There is an excellent site about the type here: A Virtual Museum dedicated to the Vickers-Armstrongs ViscountFurther details are not available unfortunately. As the most succesful of the Vickers turboprops, the Viscount's history deserved a more dignified ending if you ask me.
The story is a bit different for the Viscount, it is believed that the last airworthy Viscount, 9Q-COD, last flew in January 2009 for Global Airways in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (according to Wikipedia). There is an excellent site about the type here: A Virtual Museum dedicated to the Vickers-Armstrongs ViscountFurther details are not available unfortunately. As the most succesful of the Vickers turboprops, the Viscount's history deserved a more dignified ending if you ask me.
That predates the Wright brothers a tad. 😁
The 'Whispering Warehouse' was an occasional visitor to RAF Brize Norton in the 1980s...
The first airline flight I ever had was in a BEA Vanguard - from Gatwick to Gibraltar in 1965.
The first airline flight I ever had was in a BEA Vanguard - from Gatwick to Gibraltar in 1965.
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Pair of Tynes over here the other day, firmly attached to a French AF Transall... lovely noise!
I must admit it's the first time I've ever heard the word "whispering" applied to it - the Tyne is certainly no Proteus.
I have always thought that the Vanguard was an aircraft way ahead of its time.. it arrived just as pure jets were becoming plentiful, but then AVTUR was only a fraction of the price that it is now...
When oil starts going up again..(and it will!) then a large turboprop will be the thing to have ...then someone will remember the Vanguard, and how fast it was...
When oil starts going up again..(and it will!) then a large turboprop will be the thing to have ...then someone will remember the Vanguard, and how fast it was...
One of the Tyne's idiosyncrasies: during climbout from LHR in the early 1960s one would hear CL44s (can't remember which operator) momentarily throttling back from climb power for a few seconds (approx 5 miles from the airport) and then throttling up again.
A few years later during Vanguard ground school I have vague memories of an instructor telling us that BEA originally had an SOP doing the same thing at top of climb, to 'offload the splines' (whatever that meant). Apparently it was common practice for the flight crew to do a PA at the same time to distract the pax from the sudden silence from the engines. (Although one would wonder why the throttle back wasn't done in engine pairs - inners together then outers together to reduce thrust loss. We'll never know . . .)
Another Vanguard idiosyncrasy: on the approach the props were operating in the constant speed regime so we judged engine power by fuel flow rather than torque meter readings (not precise enough). Every change of power setting also required a rudder trim input to keep the slip needle centred.
A few years later during Vanguard ground school I have vague memories of an instructor telling us that BEA originally had an SOP doing the same thing at top of climb, to 'offload the splines' (whatever that meant). Apparently it was common practice for the flight crew to do a PA at the same time to distract the pax from the sudden silence from the engines. (Although one would wonder why the throttle back wasn't done in engine pairs - inners together then outers together to reduce thrust loss. We'll never know . . .)
Another Vanguard idiosyncrasy: on the approach the props were operating in the constant speed regime so we judged engine power by fuel flow rather than torque meter readings (not precise enough). Every change of power setting also required a rudder trim input to keep the slip needle centred.
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Just having a shower and thought "what's that drone?" Yep, FAF Transall R226 straight over the top heading towards Calais... You can hear Tynes at 19000' over the noise of a shower and my discordant singing....
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More importantly if so would you be prepared to share on here ?
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How long did she wear those colours, it seems a bit late in service to go to the expense of a complete respray?
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The nose went to Aeropark at EMA, and I've seen photos of it there still in the basic Hunting white scheme and bearing "Swiftsure" titles up to and including 2008, later repainted in BEA colours.
