Rolling the big ones?
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Rolling the big ones?
I was just wondering which large aircraft not designed for aerobatics have been deliberately rolled. The 707 and the Lancaster come to mind but I am sure there must be many others?
Maybe this has been covered in a previous thread in which case I aplologise and would ask to be pointed in the right direction.
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Maybe this has been covered in a previous thread in which case I aplologise and would ask to be pointed in the right direction.
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The Vulcan at Farnborough by Roly Falk and others; Concorde by a French test pilot and, with the same TP, Brian Walpole.
John Jordan flew either a Warwick or Windsor inverted on at least one occasion - do I correctly recall photographic evidence of that?
In his book "The Saga of Iron Annie" Martin Caidin recounts a tale of bemused USAAF pilots at the close of the war watching a German crew trying to break a Ju-52 at altitude (and presumably with parachutes!) with various rolls and loops. They gave up and landed...
John Jordan flew either a Warwick or Windsor inverted on at least one occasion - do I correctly recall photographic evidence of that?
In his book "The Saga of Iron Annie" Martin Caidin recounts a tale of bemused USAAF pilots at the close of the war watching a German crew trying to break a Ju-52 at altitude (and presumably with parachutes!) with various rolls and loops. They gave up and landed...
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More years ago than I care to admit, a more senior (then) colleague claimed to have seen a Neptune rolled. My memory of the conversation is a bit hazy but I think barrel rolled was the claim.
Ah but Roly Falk's excuse was that the Avro 707 was aerobatic and the Vulcan was just a bigger version of it.
The fatal A26 crash at Biggin many years ago comes to mind; I believe the pilot was trying to barrel roll it.
Any helicopter which rolls is doing a barrel roll too.
The fatal A26 crash at Biggin many years ago comes to mind; I believe the pilot was trying to barrel roll it.
Any helicopter which rolls is doing a barrel roll too.
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The Biggin A-26 was certainly barrel rolled into the crash. There is a video out there of the Norwegian A-26 being rolled, though it appeared to be more of a climbing roll and concluded higher than started.
The Dutch F-27 used to go past the vertical in some of its more exuberent wing overs and I once saw it get to very nearly wings level inverted - surely a case of "you might as well keep going!"
The Dutch F-27 used to go past the vertical in some of its more exuberent wing overs and I once saw it get to very nearly wings level inverted - surely a case of "you might as well keep going!"
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Yep, the A26 in Scandinavia was certainly rolled, right in front of me and my Video Camera in fact, at an airshow at Gardemoen, and from memory, your remarks about it's execution are correct.
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You were lucky to see a full roll. All I saw from it were high speed departures and then going inverted, and coming back the same way, rather than completeing the full roll. Mildenhall Air Fetes. Good times!!.
Yep, the A26 in Scandinavia was certainly rolled, right in front of me and my Video Camera in fact, at an airshow at Gardemoen, and from memory, your remarks about it's execution are correct.
WUB.
You were lucky to see a full roll. All I saw from it were high speed departures and then going inverted, and coming back the same way, rather than completeing the full roll. Mildenhall Air Fetes. Good times!!.
You were lucky to see a full roll. All I saw from it were high speed departures and then going inverted, and coming back the same way, rather than completeing the full roll
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About 1m10s in the C27J rolls very nicely.......................and loops at 1m 50s.....
YouTube - ‪AirPower 09 C-27J Spartan‬‎
YouTube - ‪AirPower 09 C-27J Spartan‬‎
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Hmmm, Ken FitzRoy commented on Varsities, rolls by previous students and lack of pitch authority at the flare ...
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Some years ago China Airlines unintentionally auto-rotated a B-747 with a load of passengers on board. The aircraft held together and continued its flight to the USA. However, the tail plane suffered more than a few wrinkles and it was some time before the aircraft flew again.
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I once visited the Flugbereitschaft (Luftwaffe Executive Squadron) at Port-Zwan (military side of Koln-Bonn). They had a several aircraft including Challengers, a VF614 and a then new Airbus - in the mess they boasted that all of their aircraft had been rolled & looped....
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ICT_SLB, they used to have four 707s as well... 
