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Old 16th Oct 2009, 10:51
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RAF Sealand

Rhydymwyn Valley History Society (RVHS) are with the co-operation of Mike Grant who was the co-author of the Wings Over Wales series going to write a History of RAF Sealand.
The South Camp is currently up for sale by Defence Estates. Some applications for listing certain buildings was refused on the advice of WDA as it wishes to dispose of the complete site as a package.
We have arranged to be given full escorted access, excluding some buildings with asbestos issues, to obtain a photographic record. This is for historic reasons and also for comparison with archive photographs for our book.
The East Camp is still an active site but we have again obtained an agreement for escorted access. We will be asked not to photograph certain sensitive areas.
If anyone wants any particular buildings to be photographed in greater detail please tell us.
Any information/documentation/photos will be gratefully received and attributed.
We think time is of the essence here
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Old 16th Oct 2009, 17:19
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RAF Sealand

Many years ago the Merseyside Aviation Society did an excellent history of Sealand in soft back.If you could get your hands on a copy may help.Unfortunately I've misplaced my copy together with companion volumes on RAF Shawbury and RAF Burtonwood.

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Old 22nd Oct 2009, 10:39
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RAF Sealand

The History of Royal Air Force Sealand was published in 1978 and is out of print. We understand the author is going to publish an updated version and we wish him well.
Although our proposed book will record the basic history it is not intended to be a military aviation volume. Sealand has been an integral part of the life of the local community for many years and we are interested in recording the experiences of anyone who has been involved or influenced by it. We hope to get a lot of people involved in doing history.
It will not be pure Studs Terkel but it will be influenced by him.
So any one with a Sealand story please tell us.
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Old 24th Oct 2009, 15:57
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Sealand must hold a record for its longevity having opened in 1917 for flying training and still in military use...
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Old 26th Oct 2009, 09:53
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Funny how things turn out.

I drove past there yesterday.

The new dual carriage way looks like it chops the front of the air field off.

I heard that there used to be an aircraft on display at the main gates.

Does anyone know what aircraft it was ?
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Old 26th Oct 2009, 10:43
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Used to be two aircraft on display,one either side of the Queensferry by-pass.The one there longest was a Hunter on the east side.Can't be 100% about the west side but Swift seems to ring a bell.

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I heard that there used to be an aircraft on display at the main gates.

Does anyone know what aircraft it was ?
I recollect, as an ATC cadet, we used to have to 'eyes right' the Spitfire that was on the gate, whilst we were on weekend drill camps.

Funny old thing but some years later I flew many sorties in it (TD248) following its restoration back to its rightful place in the sky.

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Old 26th Oct 2009, 12:21
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There was a Spitfire at the gate in the late 80s, ex THUM/CAACU (Lt Snoring), and now resored and flying again. Was in silver with a red cheat line - 41 Sqn. DA will know the tech stuff like serial no and history..
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In the late seventies there was a Spitfire at the North Camp gate and a Sea Hawk at the South Camp.
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Old 26th Oct 2009, 16:19
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As a graduate of MCCTTS and then having worked at E&I wing, I have fond memories of the place, and would be interested in a copy of the history.

WRT the Seahawk, I saw it arrive from Culdrose, all in black and marked as SAH1. I recall it was a swap for the Hunter which had been used for the airframe courses and which was intended for export to one of the South American operators.

I have often wondered if the Ferranti ATLAS computer in the training school was saved for posterity.

When I was there, they had a MRT as a sub-unit of RAF Stafford, but IIRC then lost that privelege as a result of a weekend jape involving the removal of a mail coach from outside a public house near Capel Curig.
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Old 26th Oct 2009, 18:13
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Spitfire LF16 serial TD248, now in camouflage colour scheme. Flying Legends 2009 photo at http://www.simplyplanes.co.uk/duxfor...s_airshow.html
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Old 26th Oct 2009, 23:27
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Gate Guardians

This thread shows the gate guardians histories. I didn't know
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Old 27th Oct 2009, 18:33
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As far as I am aware, the original Station gates now reside at the entrance to Cosford airfield.

Purely as an aside, the sports pavilion was there in the 60's as I changed in it as a space cadet, again in the 70's playing cricket for Valley and was still standing (just!) last time I looked in 2007. A miracle of construction.

You could also mention Cosford's Blanik....I think...which arrived there one day somewhat unexpectedly....after a decent wave flight.
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Old 27th Oct 2009, 21:30
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According the Thunder and Lightnings web site -

In mid 2006 with Sealand's closure she (the Hawker Hunter) was sold to Nigel Spurr who had her moved and put on display within his facility on the Swinderby Road just south-east of North Scarle.
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Old 28th Oct 2009, 00:21
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Hunter at North Scarle

Looks a nice display.


Picture from Google Earth.(c) 2009 Tele Atlas
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Old 29th Oct 2009, 17:47
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Still Pavilioned in Splendour

As far as I am aware, the original Station gates now reside at the entrance to Cosford airfield.

Purely as an aside, the sports pavilion was there in the 60's as I changed in it as a space cadet, again in the 70's playing cricket for Valley and was still standing (just!) last time I looked in 2007. A miracle of construction.
As of today there is a pair of gates on the East Camp on a skip behind the NAAFI. At Sealand there were three camps and many entrances so perhaps the ones at Cosford are one of these others but seem not to be the main gates.
We could not manage to cover the whole of two camps and the sports field but the pavilion is still standing and is vandal-proofed, not a pretty girl but durable.
The East Camp is pretty well complete but the South Camp is struggling.

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Old 9th Nov 2009, 09:52
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Rhydymwyn Valley History Society (RVHS) are with the co-operation of Mike Grant who was the co-author of the Wings Over Wales series going to write a History of RAF Sealand.
The books referred to should of course be Wings Across the Border. Apologies to Mike and Derrick Pratt
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Old 19th Nov 2009, 17:31
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Sealand Lives On-Well For Two Years

See the following interesting link

The Leader - Nothing will stop huge Gateway project to secure Flintshire's economic future
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Old 7th Mar 2011, 23:12
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The End of South Camp, well most of it

Most of the South Camp will be gone by the end of this week.
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Old 21st Apr 2011, 00:34
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Goodbye to all that

The following pictures are the final days of the remains of the Single Officers Quarters. Most of the buildings are removed and after these two buildings all that will remain of South Camp will be the two C Hangars, the two Lamellas and the MT Section.







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