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Old 15th May 2009, 23:12
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What really happened?

Wait for the full report. I have no objections to the video going public - I want to see it myself!
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Old 16th May 2009, 09:24
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Indeed on youtube some videos were added that same evening following "the event", i.e. the Victor actually shown airborne, but apparently the posters were strongly urged by some people to remove their footage...

Perhaps now the word is out that the pilot himself would like to see the footage the cameramen may appear again from their hiding place ?
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Old 17th May 2009, 08:51
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Moderator Intervention

My thoughts, after reading a lot of sites, was that the moderators lifted them out in the light of the request from the Commentator at the time. Subsequently, when it emerged that one of the photographers had sent his pics to Flight, it was a free for all!
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Old 17th May 2009, 10:57
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A few muppets have clips appearing on Youtube with comical cuts and home editing, I assume it's meant to be amusing but just a tad crap.

If there is no criminal investigation, which I am assuming there isn't, why can't we just have the whole story?

Rather than focusing on the "heroic" landing (well done for it by the way) perhaps VictorPilor can tell us how it was ever allowed to happen in the first place?
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Old 17th May 2009, 22:03
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Isn't it reasonably obvious from the pics and comments posted so far?!!!
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Old 17th May 2009, 22:06
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I was referring to the checks, calculations and procedures (or lack of perhaps).
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Has this link to some pics been pisted already?

Picasa Web Albums - Mark - victorflight#

I hadn't realised how far left of the centreline you'd ended up
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Has this link to some pics been pisted already?

Picasa Web Albums - Mark - victorflight#
Wow! hadn't seen those! I thought it just got off the ground for a few metres...clearly wrong! Good thing the brakes worked.

So if there wasn't enough runway left (by the looks of things, it almost seems that way), what implications would a quick circuit have? Is the plane capable of controlled flight or are certain controls locked/restrained for taxying purposes?
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Old 18th May 2009, 12:52
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I hope the guys at Bruntingthorpe will take some lessons from this. I wonder if anyone really knows how much that aircraft weighs at any given time? This appears to have been a case of luck more than judgment.

As for going round the circuit, I wouldn't want to do it in an aircraft that hadn't flown for over fifteen years.
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Old 18th May 2009, 14:26
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Some mini sniping is beginning to show folks. That should be avoided. We don't know the facts and it is up to VP to tell us if he is of a mind to - nothing to say he should of course!

Some of us, but no means all, are in a position to make reasonable judgments but I would not be willing to make mine known. Each aircraft has its own characteristics and only pilots who know how to fly them can make such comments.
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Old 18th May 2009, 17:25
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The various authorities say that an aircraft operating at high speed on the ground should be configured for take off just incase it does decide to go flying.
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Old 18th May 2009, 18:34
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That last picture link - if you click forwards fast enough it appears almost to be in real time video
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Old 18th May 2009, 19:06
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Very glad to see the pilot giving his version of events - it makes for a fascinating first hand account of a dramatic event. Very disappointed to see there are so many shy people all of a sudden in the web with regard to video coverage, however, especially as the pilot concerned has expressed his desire to see it in the public arena.

I was more than impressed with the recovery skills obviously demonstrated - once a pilot, always a pilot I suppose.

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Old 18th May 2009, 20:26
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The various authorities say that an aircraft operating at high speed on the ground should be configured for take off just incase it does decide to go flying.
What "Authorities" are those, would you care to enlighten us please? A few references would be useful as well.

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Old 18th May 2009, 20:56
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Okay maybe not an "authority" as such but the following comes from the AAIB's web site:

"Pilots should also exercise caution when carrying out unfamiliar procedures, and when operating close to take-off speed, they should
be prepared for the consequences should the aircraft become subsequently airborne. To that effect, fast taxi tests should be made with the aircraft fully configured for flight, including the canopy fully and properly secured."

Can't find my CAA link right now.
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Old 18th May 2009, 21:14
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It might just be worth pointing out that there is quite a difference between a 'test' and a 'run' and clearly you can only configure an aircraft for flight that is fit to do so. The other point, of course, is that this particular aircraft should have been nowhere near 'takeoff' speed.

A reality check for some of the more pie in sky posts on this thread perhaps in that it doesn't have a 'soul' nor is it a 'homesick angel reaching for the stars'. It is a collection of metal and various fluids maintained and controlled by one or more humans. It only does what it did because of their actions.

It's been over two weeks now. No video and no proper explanation. What gives?

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Old 19th May 2009, 10:36
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Moderation?

Moderator. I thought I had "copy and pasted" a note of mine from another site to this site. However, I cannot now find it! Is it allowed to copy a reply on one site to another? Bob
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You know, Victor pilot, if we lived in Texas there might be a chance to fly that Victor properly.

In the UK, land of it's birth, .................no chance.
 
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Bob, if YOU cut and paste under your PPRuNe username OK.........we cannot do so.

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Moderator. I thought I had "copy and pasted" a note of mine from another site to this site. However, I cannot now find it! Is it allowed to copy a reply on one site to another? Bob
Do you mean Post#219 on this thread?

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