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Old 5th Dec 2007, 22:46
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I have recently been given a number of old books being thrown out of the local primary school. They must have been stashed away at the back of a cupboard, as they are ‘Aircraft of the Fighting Powers’, 5 volumes from 1941 to 45. They were school library books and as such are not in perfect condition. What interested me first are the trade and industry adverts
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Here are a few, I will post some more if anyone is interested.





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I've got one or two of these I 'rescued' from various sources. There was a wartime copy of 'Jane's' I saw once which had a picture of a naked female in one of its trade ads!!
The Merlin advert is interesting in that it mentions Wellington and Whitley but not Lancaster and Mosquito, so that dates it to about 41 or 42 I reckon.
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of a naked female in one of its trade ads!!
- You mean this lady I presume.

It's the Helliwells Lady... she appeared in many aviation ads during the late thirties and forties....





... and in case you get the wrong idea and just for the record these just happen to be two of the several thousand aviation related ads in my collection.
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I wonder if she was called Gerri...............

Strange, isn't it, that one would probably not get away with that level of female nudity in a similar type of advert in today's PC world, and yet we are meant to be so much more broad-minded nowadays!
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Fishtailed - thanks for sharing these with us - I for one, would be very interested in seeing more should you be inclined to find the time and post them. I love all this sort of stuff - I find the artwork particularly endearing - it's so 'childish' looking - maybe there's a specific name for this type of artwork from this era...........Anyway, thanks again. sid
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Sid,
Here are a few more. It's interesting to note the difference in styles from the early forties, (fighting the battles) such as the Keil Kraft ones, and those near the end of the war, looking to peace, and the future.





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So busy studying the first Helliwells ad I've only just noticed it mentions 'Walsall Airport'. Never heard of that one.
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'Walsall Airport'. Never heard of that one
http://www.content-delivery.co.uk/av...s/Walsall.html

Fishtailed... Where did you find the Folland Ad - and what's the date of it.. It's not one I`ve seen before...
any chance of a copy?.. (please)
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Fishtailed - thanks again! The Auster ad is interesting - made by Taylorcraft but the ad is by Accles and Pollock Ltd - I'm v confused! Also, the RAF a/c, whether real or fictitious, never have Sqdn codes............
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Helliwells were also at Castle Bromwich and involved with Spifire preperation, I had the privellege of meeting their Chief Engineer once.

Eric Bott who operated the maintenace at BHX till around 1980 (Eric Bott Aviation Services) also worked for Helliwells.

Walsall was regularly used by TI's Dove ans I seem to rember there were a few light aircraft flying out of there in the 60s.

Butler Lamps were owned by Lucas,
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Accles & Pollock were (are?) manufacturers of high quality steel tubes - from which the Taylorcraft and Austers were constructed.

They also made a series of fine steel bows (archery) in the '50s.

Sorry - wrong title - should be in answer to Sid.

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A & P made a great many more articles than that

In 1896 James George Accles was originally a gunsmith, trading as Accles Ltd at Holford Mills, Perry Bar, Birmingham. He diversified into general engineering, and the cycle and engineering department made 600 bicycles a week along with tubing, weaving machines, boot stitching machines and cartridge cases.
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Love the AVO ad. When I were a lad, just starting me electronics engineering training, the college had AVOmeters just like that. Must have been about the same vintage and I can still recall the unusual bakelite "smell". Or was it the smell of dusty old electronics?
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The books from where these ads came is'Aircraft of the fighting Powers' published annually by the Harborough Publishing company. The first one I have is Vol 2 from 1941. Do you want a paper copy or an electronic one, you could download from this page I think. here are the last of the present batch scanned, with many more to do.




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Having just seen todays News of the World, I can confirm the Bare fact that the Helliwell Girl and Gerri are NOT the same - if you can keep a-Breast of my meaning.
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Fishtailed...
The books from where these ads came is'Aircraft of the fighting Powers' published annually by the Harborough Publishing company. The first one I have is Vol 2 from 1941. Do you want a paper copy or an electronic one, you could download from this page I think. here are the last of the present batch scanned, with many more to do
Thanks I could save from this page... but for my folder I need one in a higher resolution and unprocessed if possible - I don`t want to put you to any trouble though.... but I will swap it for another 5 of the Helliwells Lady
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What worries me is that I have two of these unbuilt kits (and sundry instruments shown in the ads) in the attic - no not selling no ebay etc, but I'm having a good talk to myself..
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That AVO advert and the Smiths Instruments bring back such memories. I always reckoned the Model 40 was the best of the series. I could still run a S.S.T. on any of those Smiths instruments too, with or without the relevant AP - but don't tell the Inspectorate!

Good heavens, its quite scary to realize that one has become a walking piece of aviation history and nostalgia.
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It has been about twelve years since I last managed to get my hands on a Keil Kraft kit, anyone know a source please?
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May I point out the the AVO is still a respected and used instrument today.
Only five minutes ago, as I came into work, I passed the laboratory area here and there are AVO mk. 8s a plenty between the logic analysers and PCs.

Somewhere about I have a copy of 'Britain's Wonderful Air Force' a WW2 book which has some intriguing stuff: no Mosquito I think it's too early for that but a trainer 'in widespread service' called the Owlet - I could only a record of one of these being impressed into the RAF - which was said to have an unusual 'reverse-tricycle' undercarriage.

I will try to scan some pages if anyone cares!

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