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Old 15th Aug 2007, 18:04
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Unhappy Court Line

33 years ago today, August 15th 1974.

RIP Court Line Aviation.

Who's still out there?
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Old 15th Aug 2007, 18:20
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remember flying LGW - Turin &ret with them on a school ski holiday. Incredible Liveries
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Incredible leather boots on incredible legs...................
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I was at Luton soon after..........strange to see those letters taped over the aircraft doors sealing them
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Remember it well can someone put a link or furnish info on the Court Line Tristar that was taken from the States / Canada without permission.
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I`m still here!!
The Tristar that left Canada was flown back overnight after the collapse of the company and there was some discussion as to whether or not they would be covered by insurance. Pete Hogg-the Captain-decided that the right thing to do was to get the passengers home. (Still dont really know if they actually were insured?
It was a very emotional moment when it arrived back in Luton the following morning.
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Is it really 33 years?

I was operating on the L1011 that got stuck in Gander for 5 days in January 1974 with 400 Jamaicans on board, Peter Hogg was on that one as well, Pete Varley being the other Captain.

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Was someone with the name of Collins involved in the company? His wife and son stayed at our house once, but it is so far in the distant the memory is hazy.
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As a sideline, Peter Hogg murdered his wife in 1976 and hid her body in the depths of Wastwater in the Lake District where it was found eight years later.
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Just to set the record straight, in fairness to Peter Hogg -

He was found Not Guilty of murder.
The defence was provocation, and the jury took only about an hour to acquit him. He had been provoked for years by his wife being unfaithful, and eventually snapped during a row after she'd got home from a week away with her then lover (some banker) and flaunting her affair.
He was convicted of Manslaughter and jailed for three years, with an extra year for obstructing a coroner.

I wasn't in the case, just happened to be doing another murder trial at the Old Bailey at the time.

His wife was an air hostess.


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Old 17th Aug 2007, 11:13
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I doubt that being unfaithful would be out of the norm today. Does anyone also have info on the 4 engined prop job that was bought for shipping the RB engines around?
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The four engine prop job was a Beverley. XB259-I think?. It was never properly thought through and the aircraft would unlikely ever have been able to be flown on the civil reg. Plus the range of the Beverley was very limited and it would have taken forever to fly a spare engine to -say -the Caribean.
It stayed at Luton for a long time and was I think eventually flown to Brough.
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and hid her body in the depths of Wastwater
Wierd coincidence I was actually working in Wasdale (the valley not the Ppruner) the day the body was recovered, it having originally being found by a local diver I know
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Blackburn Beverley. Saw that arrive at LTN, yes i was in shorts at the time Now the last one in existence, up somewhere near Hull. Paull Airfield i think.

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I recall a wry comment by James Gilbert in Pilot at the time of the trial that amongst the books used to weigh Mrs Hogg's body down on the lake bottom was "The Fliers World" which he had written. "It wasn't that bad was it?" he asked.

Think the Beverley was the one that ended up at Southend wasn't it? The cockpit still exists at Duxford.
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Anyone remember TO accident with the BAC 1-11 that went through the cockpit of the Aztec at Luton killing the Aztec pilot.. I knew one of the girls in the back at the time MARY ROBB who later went to Birmingham with BA on the 1-11s
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A bitter memory for me. My father was an engineer at Luton, I remember the papers being full of concern about the holiday makers, but hardly a mention for the unpaid employees, many of whom were never paid all that was owed to them
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Dont remember anyone named Collins? Was he a Pilot/Engineer any further clues? (Bernard Collins was Luton airport director at about that time?)
Mary Robb was on the 1-11 that hit the Aztec. The surviving Aztec pilot was George Adams from Luton flying club and I think the 1-11 Captain was Pete
(?) name now escapes me -but he had a little goatie ginger beard and was nicknamed Rufus!! Went on to fly with Britannia.
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Pete Barber?
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