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Old 14th Apr 2008, 22:22
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I bet Mr Walton feels a little lonely tonight, all those years having 558 tucked up at Bruntingthorpe, then tonight she's no longer there.

For all you photogs planning to be at 22 threshold for departure, just remember what happened when the B-1 hit full mil power when at RIAT.
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Old 14th Apr 2008, 22:24
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Baffling. The aircraft is supposed to be as near as possible to flight state.
Why is it baffling ? People who know how to swing an aircraft have told you how it's done. Nimrod swing done on compass base, towed around using specially adapted tug with bar to also pull Houchin. All systems were powered up. Engines spinning, engines stopped, still large chunks of metal. If you were really unlucky, you even had a Nav turn up.

Your average RAF compass base is not really suitable for taxiing your average large jet.

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Old 14th Apr 2008, 22:37
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"For all you photogs planning to be at 22 threshold for departure, just remember what happened when the B-1 hit full mil power when at RIAT. "




Warm as toast comes to mind!
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Old 14th Apr 2008, 23:22
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Great photographs everyone

May I be so bold as to say, if we are to witness more of these - the best way of showing your appreciation is to visit the homepage of TVOC (available to view by all) and hitting the e-donate system with whatever you feel is appropriate. See www.tvoc.co.uk


Many congratulations to all those involved from the supporters, engineers and crew - even the detractors. They only strive to push on the desire of many to realise the dream.

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Old 15th Apr 2008, 06:28
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Doh! missed the 1000th reply.
Anyway, many congratulations and thanks to all those involved.
Just a throught, will this months rent at Bruntingthorpe be 2 nights cheaper and will Cottesmore's landing fee's take care of any cash back from Mr. Walton?
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Old 15th Apr 2008, 08:15
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People who know how to swing an aircraft have told you how it's done.


You're quite right - (and hot dinners come to mind). They’d be people like the Kiwi CAA whose airlines pioneered pre INS/GPS trans Pacific flights. Dragging an aircraft around a surveyed compass base with a tug, tow bar, and running Houchin is ludicrous.

Your average RAF compass base is not really suitable for taxiing your average large jet.
A triumph of convenience over common sense. If you can tow it you can taxi it. Not that any of this matters to 558.
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Old 15th Apr 2008, 09:15
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If you drive it round the base you burn lots of expensive fuel.

If you have the engines burning and turning, what about the poor sod on the compass?

I hope that sense has prevailed and they are not doing a full-blown fourier12 pointer.

If they have an IN then I would agree simply fire it up and drive it round the compass base and do an IN swing.
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Old 15th Apr 2008, 09:22
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worth a look

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiGiyQ1Wnvs

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Old 15th Apr 2008, 13:32
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Well, for all of you doubters and that the Vulcan swing method was 'ludicrous', may I point out that the Vulcan Force achieved exceptional navigational and bombing accuracy against the USAF in the annual bombing competitions [Giant Voice]?

You don't get those high levels of success with a dodgy compass system.

Ergo, it worked...
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Old 15th Apr 2008, 13:46
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Giant Voice is correct.

I remember a Vulcan coming straight to Bitteswell from the bombing contest for maintenance. After it was jacked up we set about opening up all the fuel tanks only to be hypnotised by JP4, phew, that fuel had a smell all of it's own!!
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Old 15th Apr 2008, 14:16
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Has anyone managed to get an idea of take-off time tomorrow yet? My boss was very good about me leaving work at the drop of a hat yesterday, but I'd rather play it safe tomorrow to see the take off!
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Old 15th Apr 2008, 14:20
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I'll echo Sarah's thoughts, does anyone have any decent info on timings (as well as take off direction and if there's going to be a circuit)? I was in Melton this morning, and I delighted in listening to 2 old boys chuckling about it. Shame that there's not wider publicity though, it'd be nice to see her slow traffic on the A1 again.
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Old 15th Apr 2008, 14:58
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...Bombing Comps

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...that would be good old NBS

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Old 15th Apr 2008, 14:58
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Well, for all of you doubters and that the Vulcan swing method was 'ludicrous', may I point out that the Vulcan Force achieved exceptional navigational and bombing accuracy against the USAF in the annual bombing competitions [Giant Voice]?
Quite right, but Giant Voice aircraft, as with crews, were 'hand picked' over a lengthy period prior to the competition. During that time the Nav Plots produced their own correction cards - in the air. Change any compass component and the aircraft slipped back down the list.

Anyway, the FAA says

b. Precautions. (2) Personnel engaged in the compensation of the compass shall remove all magnetic or ferrous material from their possession.

How'd your tug driver manage this.
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Old 15th Apr 2008, 15:25
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ETD 16 Apr

Expected to depart 1400 local Wx dependant
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Old 15th Apr 2008, 15:54
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I have been advised ETD 12.00. A lot of media coverage is expected.
I'm not sitting in front of the PC tomorrow, I'm popping out for some fresh air and a 266 mile round journey.
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Old 15th Apr 2008, 17:16
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Thumbs up

Any advances on 12:00 then?!

Cheers, hope to see some of you there.
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Old 15th Apr 2008, 17:30
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A guy on another forum who works at the base says they were told 11.00am.
I would imagine though, thats the earliest it would depart, and wouldn't be surprised if it went later.

I suppose the best bet is to get there early and wait.
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Old 15th Apr 2008, 17:35
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From the Vulcan Media Guru

OK PPruners

BBC Radio 5 Live Interview at 07.15.
Live reports through BBC Breakfast from around 07.00
BBC Lunchtime News
BBC Evening News

Subject to any major news breaking item, the TV might can it in favour of the major news story.

Crew In 13.00
Depart 14.00

Enjoy the day!
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Old 15th Apr 2008, 18:22
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2 nights free rent???? I am sure Mr Walton would have been quite happy with that if they had been kind enough to pay rent over the last year!!!!!
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