Vulcan XH 558 Threads (merged)
Indeed, flippers, a job well done!
Next year there will probably be 2 categories of airshow (which is one the UK genpub's favourite spectator events second only to Kevball):
1. Those at which the Vulcan will participate.
2. Those without spectators.
Next year there will probably be 2 categories of airshow (which is one the UK genpub's favourite spectator events second only to Kevball):
1. Those at which the Vulcan will participate.
2. Those without spectators.
BEagle head, nail, hit.
Very well done guys and girls, absolutely excellent stuff, pity most other news channels didn't pick up on this one.
The very first Vulcan I remember was at the Odiham open day in the late seventies. My dad was commentating from the tower and this great big shadow fell over us, followed by a tremendous noise, and lots of children crying. Happy days. The only other noises that made me cry that day (from sheer fright) were the shackelton (what a horrible sound) and 'toom airfield attack, by the time the Harrier pitched up Dad had fortunately decided to borrow some ear defenders for his screaming kid...obviously cheaper than having to wash his sons shreddies!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8LVRobNHm8
Very well done guys and girls, absolutely excellent stuff, pity most other news channels didn't pick up on this one.
The very first Vulcan I remember was at the Odiham open day in the late seventies. My dad was commentating from the tower and this great big shadow fell over us, followed by a tremendous noise, and lots of children crying. Happy days. The only other noises that made me cry that day (from sheer fright) were the shackelton (what a horrible sound) and 'toom airfield attack, by the time the Harrier pitched up Dad had fortunately decided to borrow some ear defenders for his screaming kid...obviously cheaper than having to wash his sons shreddies!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8LVRobNHm8
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No doubt! ... and thanks flipflop for the up-dates.
Now, I know I'll get electronically knocked on the head for this - but I have to ask. Whats the huge white antenna port side of the nose wheel doors. What was wrong with the original Woodford idea on the bomb aimer's blister? Much smarter. (Standing by for 'nit pickin old sod' etc.
Now, I know I'll get electronically knocked on the head for this - but I have to ask. Whats the huge white antenna port side of the nose wheel doors. What was wrong with the original Woodford idea on the bomb aimer's blister? Much smarter. (Standing by for 'nit pickin old sod' etc.
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The very first Vulcan I remember was at the Odiham open day in the late seventies. My dad was commentating from the tower and this great big shadow fell over us, followed by a tremendous noise, and lots of children crying.
I was also watching but I was on 230 sqn then. Now, if only I could remember who did the commentary......
*I was just as scared by the Vulcan, in about 1961 in Farnborough.
Yesterday, as 558 was flying, I sat under the Vulcan in the RAF museum, hoping that the test flight would go well. Glad I wasn't disappointed!
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The achievment of the Engineering Team in restoring the aeroplane back to flight was not just the nuts and bolts of the job, I think the most impressive part was the tenacity to keep going during the stages when the project was in the doldroms and finances were stretched, there was bad press and negative attiudes, it would have been easy to move on to more secure jobs to pay the morgage, take my hat off chaps, well done,
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Absolutely excellent news and fair play to those who kept the faith and made it happen.
Does anyone know if she will be subject to a lot of limitations, or will she be doing the full show that we come to fixed so many to the spot in the 80s and 90s?
Does anyone know if she will be subject to a lot of limitations, or will she be doing the full show that we come to fixed so many to the spot in the 80s and 90s?
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future display format...
TVOC have repeatedly answered this question from many eager folk who remember her AWESOME display!
the official answer has always been "AS BEFORE"
so, THAT slow pass - THAT 'donks to max' howl - THAT climb!
nuff said!
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the official answer has always been "AS BEFORE"
so, THAT slow pass - THAT 'donks to max' howl - THAT climb!
nuff said!
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Top effort brings a tear to the eye, I can vividly remember those leather seats, always felt like a vintage sports car in the cockpit, lots of good breeding and no need to be flash about it.
Thanks Beags
love it...
Thanks Beags
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Anything that needs to be said has already been said, so I'll say it again anyway. WELL DONE! A fantastic rffort from all involved from the pilots down to the folks that bought stuff off the internet to support the cause.
Can't wait for airshow season next year! (Oh and pictures of Tombstone if someone can manage that as well!)
Can't wait for airshow season next year! (Oh and pictures of Tombstone if someone can manage that as well!)
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Fantastic News - This will certainly liven up the Airshow scene in 2008.
Well done everyone involved with this project!
Well done everyone involved with this project!
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Thank you to all for the kind words and support, but I can assure you that I was just as excited and keen to get XH558 in the air as you were. This has been FAR more than 'just a job' to myself and the rest of the team.
forget,
Don't quote me on this, as the aerials are not really my domain!
However, I believe that the large white blade aerial that now lives where the Rad Alt di-electric panels used to be, is the new UHF/VHF aerial. The fork shaped aerial that now adorns the Bomb Blister, is the new VOR aerial. There are several new aerials dotted across the airframe as part of her new avionics suite.
Interestingly, this new VOR aerial has forced a reduction of the Vne from its service limits, down to 330KIAS, with a normal operating speed of 300KIAS
As goes the future display format, well, I believe that it will be broadly similar to the previous display, but flown with a little more mechanical sympathy for the old girl's age! Theoretically, there is no physical reason why it could not be identical to the previous displays, however, a desire to preserve the engine cyclic usage and airframe fatigue life, will probably lead to a slightly gentler display.
However, this is of course just the way that I understand it, and ultimately, it will be entirely down to the Display Crew as to how 558 is displayed
Flipflopman
forget,
Don't quote me on this, as the aerials are not really my domain!
However, I believe that the large white blade aerial that now lives where the Rad Alt di-electric panels used to be, is the new UHF/VHF aerial. The fork shaped aerial that now adorns the Bomb Blister, is the new VOR aerial. There are several new aerials dotted across the airframe as part of her new avionics suite.
Interestingly, this new VOR aerial has forced a reduction of the Vne from its service limits, down to 330KIAS, with a normal operating speed of 300KIAS
As goes the future display format, well, I believe that it will be broadly similar to the previous display, but flown with a little more mechanical sympathy for the old girl's age! Theoretically, there is no physical reason why it could not be identical to the previous displays, however, a desire to preserve the engine cyclic usage and airframe fatigue life, will probably lead to a slightly gentler display.
However, this is of course just the way that I understand it, and ultimately, it will be entirely down to the Display Crew as to how 558 is displayed
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Thanks Flip flop, I’m as pleased as anyone to see 558 airborne but I’m surprised at just how irritated I am by those add-on antennas. If they were your domain they wouldn’t have ended up there! Hard to believe that the people involved had so little sympathy for the appearance of the aircraft. The whole front end is spoilt.
I’ll offer to come over and fix it for free. Hang the VOR antenna from the old scanner mounts in the NBS radome. It’ll work fine and the VNE restriction is removed - if ever needed.
Stick a Vulcan standard VHF (+UHF?) antenna on the bomb-aimers blister – where it belongs. Job done.
Nit picking? No. It’s supposed to be an RAF Vulcan, not a Vulcan that’s been messed around with by hanging antennas wherever they happened to fit.
Apart from that, have another one.
I’ll offer to come over and fix it for free. Hang the VOR antenna from the old scanner mounts in the NBS radome. It’ll work fine and the VNE restriction is removed - if ever needed.
Stick a Vulcan standard VHF (+UHF?) antenna on the bomb-aimers blister – where it belongs. Job done.
Nit picking? No. It’s supposed to be an RAF Vulcan, not a Vulcan that’s been messed around with by hanging antennas wherever they happened to fit.
Apart from that, have another one.
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Get out clause
Only an exceptionall lage donation to the XH558 flying fund will excuse Tombstone's completion of said naked perambulation.
And by large I mean at least 6 months salary
JR
And by large I mean at least 6 months salary
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Does anyone know if the in-flight refuelling system is still serviceable?
It'd be nice to see the Vulcan and VC10 together again.
It'd be nice to see the Vulcan and VC10 together again.
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Does anyone know if the in-flight refuelling system is still serviceable?
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No, it's not
The IFR system on the XH558 has been disabled for many years, prior to her delivery at Bruntingthorpe. As XH558 will never again need to be filled to max, she will also never again need the In Flight Refuelling capability, so this system was never considered for repair.
That is not to say that 558 couldn't partake in a spot of 'Dry Prodding Action' However, whether the crew would deem that to be worth the risk to the newly restored, sole flying example of an Avro Vulcan, is another matter!!!
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Can't say I'm too disturbed by the addition of a few aerials, but it would have been nice to see the ECM intake replaced. Still, it's a Vulcan and that's what matters! Anyway, can we start a fund now to repaint her in proper colours? The Dark Green is fine, just needs some Medium Sea Grey and some gloss white for underneath - and a black radome of course! Send your cans of Dulux to...
I keep looking at the Youtube vid of the first flight - that's a pretty impressive take-off run even by Vulcan standards!
I keep looking at the Youtube vid of the first flight - that's a pretty impressive take-off run even by Vulcan standards!