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Old 4th May 2020, 12:11
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Looks like a grasshopper to me ,its a wonder we didnt fold up the wings on the winch launch at 613 gs
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Old 4th May 2020, 14:10
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Originally Posted by chevvron
Sure it's not a Grasshopper?
If Wikipedia is to be believed,

"the [Slingsby T.3 Primary] type became known as the Dagling, a name formed by combining Dagnall and Zögling, which later became used informally to cover all types of primary gliders in the UK"

so a Grasshopper was also, colloquially speaking, a "Dagling".
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Old 4th May 2020, 15:14
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Thought the Grasshopper had the designation T 38.

Then of course Elliots of Newbury (EoN) prodiuced their version which was I think the Eton.
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Old 4th May 2020, 15:45
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Originally Posted by chevvron
Thought the Grasshopper had the designation T 38.
Yes: T.3 Primary (based on the Dagling proper) and the later T.38 Grasshopper.
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Old 4th May 2020, 19:06
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Originally Posted by chevvron
Sure it's not a Grasshopper?
It is. Daggling is an old term used many years ago.
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Old 4th May 2020, 19:07
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Originally Posted by Mnewton
Looks like a grasshopper to me ,its a wonder we didnt fold up the wings on the winch launch at 613 gs
800 ft on a winch launch. It did not go in the daily flying log !!
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631 Sealand. 1968
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Old 4th May 2020, 19:14
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WB986. First Sedburgh to be delivered to the then 186 GS. Later 631. Hawerden and later sealand. (1953. I was still in my pram then. This photo given to my by Bill Grey. Ex CO of 631)
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Old 4th May 2020, 19:16
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WB 937 over Hawarden. Cyril Coleman. (100 % great man and instructor.) Mid 60s
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Old 5th May 2020, 07:20
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Originally Posted by ACW562
800 ft on a winch launch. It did not go in the daily flying log !!
It did at 613 'cos the CO, Jacko, did the first flight and he was no lightweight; as Mal said it's a wonder the wings didn't fold up. .
The guys on the winch said they fell about laughing when he was overhead, seeing this very slim fuselage with Jacko's bulk at the front.
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Great photos keep them coming!
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Old 30th May 2020, 12:39
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Watched James Martin's cookery show on TV today and he visited the Windemere Jetty Museum. Take a look at this.
Slingsby Falcon 1 Glider - Windermere Jetty glider/
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I went to RAF Halton in !985 to do my glider scholarship on Venture Gliders.. I can't remember what the VGS was called. Excellent fun.
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Originally Posted by Guern
I went to RAF Halton in !985 to do my glider scholarship on Venture Gliders.. I can't remember what the VGS was called. Excellent fun.
Well 612 were boltholed to Halton sometime in the late '80s or early '90s (kicked out of Benson until someone twigged there was an empty airfield at Abingdon and get in quick before the Army ruined it), but it was probably the resident 613 you flew with.
I was Wing Gliding Liaison Officer for both schools at the time of the co located operations.
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Thanks. Having found some paperwork today it was 613.
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Old 1st Jun 2020, 22:13
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Originally Posted by chevvron
Watched James Martin's cookery show on TV today and he visited the Windemere Jetty Museum. Take a look at this.
Slingsby Falcon 1 Glider - Windermere Jetty glider/
looks like another flying brick , wonder what altitude was reached on the tow ? 200 feet ?
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WB 937 over Hawarden. Cyril Coleman. (100 % great man and instructor.) Mid 60s
My first 5 glider flights were in this one on 9 March 75, 27 minutes total. then another 12 minutes a month later. First picture I have seen of it thanks.
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I cannot remember if either myself or a n other forum member has posted this photo before but I always thought it was a pity that the T21 was redesigned post WW2.
The original T21 cockpit looked so much more fun


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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 10:32
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Yes according to what I've read, that is the view with the front section detached; a front section was provided but the RAF didn't like it so the aircraft was re-desigend to omit the detachable bit.
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Yes that is correct Chevvron - from memory the original T21 was rejected by the RAF and ended up at Dunstable ?? The Gliding Club really liked the concept and suggested some improvements to Slingsby,slingsby slightly enlarged the design and it emerged as the T21 A then B.
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