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Air Cadet Gliding pix in the 80s (pre glass)

Old 29th Jan 2009, 20:45
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You were surprised?!! You should have been sat in the darn thing!!

Our leader, John Bomphrey (CCF Flt Lt and physics teacher, visible in the background) said 'keep it 3 ft off the ground and you'll go further'. I didn't have much choice in the height gain - when the bungee went tight, he went and shouted 'run' to the minions...! I released the aft restraining cable as quickly as possible and I was away. Bit to low to scratch away in any available lift though....

I've got another picture at work that I'll scan tomorrow evening.
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Old 29th Jan 2009, 20:50
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I own several Grasshoppers and have flown about 100 launches on them including 1 aerotow and several winch launches, but never seen one at more than a few feet from a bungey.

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Old 29th Jan 2009, 20:52
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to scratch away in any available lift though....
A Dagling soaring! Est ce possible?? Anyone got any Dagling/Grasshopper soaring stories?
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I once had about 10 seconds of reduced sink if that qualifies.
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Sadly I never soared any of my Grasshoppers or EON Eton TX1. I have heard tales of primary gliders soaring at VGC Rallies which I find hard to believe.
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RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 18/2/53. 87 GS, Weston Super Mare, 28/2/53. 621 GS, Weston Super Mare (Noted there in 59, 75 when wearing the name 'Ossy', 81 - 84. Sold in 1985.

Whilst not quite on thread an effort to try and turn it back in the right direction. My Cadet Mk3.
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Old 29th Jan 2009, 22:18
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At 613 Gliding School at Halton [where I was a Staff Cadet] we had a Dagling, and the instructors fitted it with an altimeter and an ASI, winch launched it and obtained around 800 feet I believe. It was flown by S/Ldr Topsfield when I saw it fly. A circuit was possible from that height, but it sure did come down like a brick!!!!
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Old 29th Jan 2009, 22:59
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This was my first solo in 1949 at North Weald:-



It is a Mark I Cadet...We didn't have any two seaters then. It had no instruments and you judged the airspeed by the wind noise. I don't think it even had a wheel!

Having no two seaters, they couldn't really teach you to turn so the object was to get you to stay airborne for thirty seconds from the cable release at the top of a winch launched "high hop" this gave you a "Gliding A" only:-



Years later while flying for BEA, I became an instructor on 617 Gliding school at Bovingdon and then Manston...Happy days
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Old 29th Jan 2009, 23:08
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Some lovely shots on the 633 site, shame they're all too small though Nice one of 877(Another one of ours)

I remember we had a winch that had done service at 617 at some point, as carved into the backplate of the cab were the words

'617- The Winch Busters'

Thinking back, our fleet for many years consisted of the following;

WB991 Barge
XA310 Mk3
XA308 Mk3
XN240 Mk3
WT877 Mk3

But as the glass started to arrive, our complement seemed to change almost weekly. I can remember XE791, but the others will have to wait until I get back to so-called civilisation

According to the Oracle (John Stride), all the XE series had a rigging problem and were much more likely to spin off a stall I remember one of our Instructors coming back white as a sheet after intentionally 'trying out' a spin in a Mk3....he didn't do it again There was a good reason why spinning was banned Apparently, they didn't come out too easily. As they lost height anyway at the speed of a polished house brick, then recovering from a spin must've been very 'interesting'
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Old 30th Jan 2009, 11:18
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I have spun them 2 turns - it's interesting - and you have to watch VNE on the recovery. Entry is interesting depending if it's off a turn (where it appears to enter almost 'over vertical') or not but really it's conventional in all respects - as is recovery.

The syllabus for cadets on Gliding proficiency (as it then was) only taught 'stall in a turn' (incipient stage) - and we actually had one spin in off a cable break - full blooded spin so quick the guys did not really have any idea what happened until they hit.............. both walked away from it though. A/C was Cat 5.

I've flown XA, XE, XN & WT series - can't really say any performed better or worse. The Cadet 3 was build like a brick outhouse, but the Cadet 1 was like an eggbox the ply was so thin I thought...................

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Old 30th Jan 2009, 13:38
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The Cadet 3 was build like a brick outhouse
Well, sort of..........

An ex RAF pilot still prominent in civilian gliding was commemorated in a clubhouse cartoon that accurately depicted an actual event.

The Mk III, having run over a runway edge, still contained a 'well-nourished' army officer on air experience in the front. The instructor was out of the back, peering underneath saying (quote verbatim) 'Thank god nothing's broken'.

The back of the Mk III was dangling at a 20 degree angle to the front.............
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Old 30th Jan 2009, 15:00
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I only ever saw one broken MK3 in my time at 621, and that was caused by me putting the arm of a retrieve trolley through the nose of 877 on an overenthusiastic retrieve from halfway up the field

Arclite01-Interesting stuff- never dared try it myself! You're a braver man than me!
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Old 30th Jan 2009, 15:31
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I was once on the recieving end of a low flying complaint from the Captain of The Queens Flight
As newly joined CI with 612 at Benson I had been racking up the 1 minute and 2 minute flight times logged for Mk IIIs doing cable breaks. Retrieving the Mk III involved a trailer and required live ballast (usually the student) in the cockpit to take the strain off the skid. From the far end of the 06 run the quickest way back to the launch point was via the apron and right past the window of the said Captain. As the landrover/trailer/Mk III combo passed his window he looked up and saw only the glider with me in it apparently flying at very low level down the apron We still laugh at the memory of the incident today.
One of the two Barges that 612 had was VX275 which was the oldest barge with the Cadets having been presented in 1947 and named 'Venture' although we always referred to it by the name of the lady who presented it "Mrs Hepple" VX275 was last heard of in the RAF Museum's store at Stafford. I'd love to reaquaint myself with her.
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Old 30th Jan 2009, 18:40
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Best thread ever, memories of Kirknewton flooding back.................
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Old 30th Jan 2009, 20:44
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Cadet Mk3 production list. Can anybody correct or add any additional information to the individual histories?

C/NTypeRegistrationRemarks
669T.31B Cadet TX3WT865RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 2/7/51. Written off 8/02/53. SOC 8/2/53 Cat 5 c. Sold to and rebuilt by RNGSA.

676 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT866 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 2/7/51. Written off 31/8/56. SOC 18/10/56 Cat 5 C.


677 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT867 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 13/8/51. 617 GS RAF Hendon, 9/64. 626 VGS, Predanack. 616 VGS, RAF Henlow. Sold 14/8/85. Stored at Eaglescott, Devon


678 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT868 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 13/8/51. 123 GS, 623 GS, White Walthan. 645 GS, RAF Catterick, 1983. CGS Store, RAF Syerston, 5/86. Sold.

679 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT869 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 20/8/51. 632 GS Meir, 1960. 611 VGS, Swanton Morley.

680 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT870 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 20/8/51. 611 VGS, Swanton Morley. Sold 21/8/86.

681 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT871 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 20/8/51. 632 GS, Meir, 1960. 626 GS. 633 GS. Sold 22/4/85.

682 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT872 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 3/9/51. 645 GS, RAF Catterick, 1962. 611 VGS, Swanton Morley. 616 VGS, RAF Henlow. Written of in 1977 during structural tests.

683 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT873 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 5/9/51. 622 GS. Sold 3/10/83.


684 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT874 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 17/9/51. 87 GS, Halesland 9/59. Written off 12/1/64.


685 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT875 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 17/9/51. 87 GS, Halesland, 9/59. 626 GS. 615 GS, Kenley. Destroyed in Hangar fire at Kenley 23/10/78.

686 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT876 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 2/10/51. Written off 13/6/61.

687 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT877 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 2/10/51. 625 GS, RAF South Cerney, 11/72 - 8/76. 621VGS, Weston Super Mare.


688 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT893 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 17/10/51. Written off 4/10/63. Sold.

689 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT894 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 17/10/51. Written off 15/4/67.

690 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT895 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 29/10/51. ? GS, RAF Debden, 9/73. 614 GS Weathersfield. Written Off in fatal accident at Weathersfield, 16/4/83.

691 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT896 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 29/10/51. Written off 26/7/55.

692 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT897 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 29/10/51. 89 GS, 622 GS, Christchurch. W/O 18/10/61. To instructional duties 6/1/62 as 7710M. Scrapped at Weeton 20/5/63.

693 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT898 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 29/10/51. 87 GS, Weston Super Mare 1951. 89GS Christchurch, 54-63. Old Sarum 63-78. RAF Upavon, 78-79. 662GS Arbroath, 79-86. CGS Store, RAF Syerston, 7/86. Sold 21/886 to F Pape.

694 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT899 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 27/11/51. 643 VGS, 661 VGS. ACCGS RAF Syerston. Sold 20/8/85 to R J Everett.


695 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT900 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 17/12/51. 662 GS, Arbroath. CGS Store, RAF Syerston, 7/86. Sold 9/9/86.

696 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT901 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 3/12/51. 611 VGS, Swanton Morley. 622 GS, Old Sarum. Sold 22/8/85.

697 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT902 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 3/12/51. Sold 16/4/85. 698T.31B Cadet TX3WT903RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 11/12/51. 633 GS, RAF Cosford 1960. 615 VGS, RAF Kenley. 661 VGS Kirknewton. Sold.

699 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT904 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 11/12/51. 617 GS, RAF Hendon. 617 GS, RAF Bovingdon. 645 GS, RAF Catterick, 1982. Sold 9/12/85.

700 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT905 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 7/12/51. 645 GS, RAF Catteick, 1978 - 82. Sold.

701 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT906 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 7/1/52. 661 VGS Kirknewton. 622 GS. 662 GS, Arbroath. 645 GS, RAF Catterick, 1983. 663 VGS, RAF Kinloss, 5/86. Sold 14/9/87.

702 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT907 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 7/1/52. 611 VGS, Swanton Morley. Written off at RAF Swanton Morley, 13/8/70.

703 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT908 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 9/1/52. 122 GS, 613 GS, RAF Halton. CGS Store, RAF Syerston, 5/86. Sold 19/8/86.

704 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT909 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 9/1/52. 611 VGS, Swanton Morley. 626 GS. Sold 2/8/85.

705 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT910 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Fuselage SSK/FF/1411, Port Wing SSK/OW/4077, Starboard Wing SSK/OW/3348, Elevator SSK/E/1418, Tailplane SSK/T/1410. Delivered 28/1/52. 613 GS, RAF Halton, 7/71. 611 VGS, Swanton Morley.

706 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT911 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 28/1/52. Sold 21/8/85.

707 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT912 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 18/2/52. 611 VGS, Swanton Morley. Written off 26/7/71.

708 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT913 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 18/2/52. 615 VGS, RAF Kenley. 614 VGS, Weathersfield, 07/84. CGS Store, RAF Syerston, 9/86. Sold 8/8/86.

709 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT914 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 10/3/52. 616 VGS, RAF Henlow. 622 GS. Sold 20/8/85.

710 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT915 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 10/3/52. 661 VGS Kirknewton. 611 VGS, Swanton Morley. Sold 12/9/86.

711 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT916 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a.Delivered 17/3/52. 662 GS, Arbroath. Written off 5/5/65.

712 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT917 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 17/3/52. 624 VGS, RAF Chivenor, 1971. 614 GS Weathersfield, 7/83. Sold 9/9/86.


713 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT918 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 7/4/52. 611 VGS, Swanton Morley. 616 VGS, RAF Henlow. 626 GS. 645 GS, RAF Catterick, 1978 - 83. CGS Store, RAF Syerston, 5/86. Sold 19/8/86.

714 T.31B Cadet TX3 WT919 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Delivered 7/4/52. GS Kirton in Lindsey, 1960. 661 VGS Kirknewton. 633 GS. 662 GS, Arbroath.


824 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA282 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 9/6/52. Fuselage SSK/FF1428, Port Wing SSK/OW2877, Starboard Wing SSK/OW2872, Rudder SSK/R1425. 105 GS, Cambridge. 626 GS. 635 GS, Burtonwood. CGMF Store, RAF Syerston. Sold.

825 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA283 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 9/6/52. Written off 12/7/55.

826 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA284 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 16/6/62. Sold.


827 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA285 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 30/6/52. 645 GS, RAF Catterick, 1961 - 2. Written off 30/10/62

828 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA286 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d. 14/7/52. 615 VGS, Kenley. 624 VGS, RAF Chivenor, 1971. CGS Store, RAF Syerston, 8/86. Sold.


829 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA287 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 16/8/52. 662 GS, Arbroath. Written off 18/9/78. CGS Store, RAF Syerston, 5/86.

830 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA288 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 28/5/52. 645 GS, RAF Catterick, 1964. 612 VGS. 615 GS, Kenley. Sold.

831 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA289 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 8/9/52. Fuselage SSK/FF1436, Rudder SSK/R4811, Tailplane SSK/T1607, Elevator SSK/E1704. 622 GS. 634 VGS, RAF St Athan. 636 VGS. Sold.

832 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA290 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 7/10/52. 643 VGS, 661 VGS Kirknewton. 663 VGS, RAF Kinloss, 1969. Stored 4 MGSP, RAF Dishforth, 7/86. Sold.

833 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA291 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 2/10/52. Written off 30/3/54.

834 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA292 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 6/10/52. 615 VGS, RAF Kenley. Sold.

835 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA293 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 15/11/52. ACCGS, RAF Syerston, 1982. Sold.

836 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA294 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 27/10/52. 82 GS, St Merryn. 617 GS, RAF Hendon, 64. 622 GS Old Sarum, 1974.

837 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA295 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. A/W 8/10/52. Fuselage, SSK/FF1442. Rudder, SSK/R1438. Port Aileron, SSK/A3109. Starboard Aileron SSK/A2902. D/d 15/10/52 to 192 GS. CGS RAF Syerston. Sold.

838 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA296 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 20/10/52. 662 GS, Arbroath. Written off 16/11/55.

839 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA297 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 1/12/52. Written off 29/3/59.

840 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA298 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 12/11/52. Written off 21/4/57.

841 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA299 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 3/11/52. Partisipated in Battle of Britain flying display at Tangmere, 19/9/53. Written off 2/3/58.


842 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA300 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 8/12/52. 624 GS, Exeter. 626 GS.615 VGS Henley. Destroyed in hangar fire at Kenley 23/10/78.

843 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA301 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 8/12/52. 617 GS, RAF Hendon, 9/64. 616 VGS RAF Henlow. Written off at Kenley 26/8/74.

844 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA302 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 17/12/52. Sold.

845 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA303 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 26/1/53. Written off 6/8/54.

846 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA304 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 4/12/52. 611 VGS Swanton Morley. Written off 26/5/70.

847 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA305 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 5/1/53. 613 GS, RAF Halton 10/64. Written off 14/3/65.

848 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA306 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 12/1/53. 83 GS, Aston Down. 622 GS Upavon. Written off 24/4/83.

849 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA307 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 19/1/53. Written off 15/8/62.

850 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA308 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 23/2/53. 87 GS, Halesland. 621 GS Weston Super Mare. 622 GS. 634 VGS, RAF St Athan. Sold.

851 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA309 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 23/2.53. 102 GS, 611 GS, Swanton Morley. Sold.

852 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA310 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 18/2/53. 87 GS, Weston Super Mare, 28/2/53. 621 GS, Weston Super Mare (Noted there in 59, 75 when wearing the name 'Ossy', 81 - 84. Sold in 1985.

853 T.31B Cadet TX3X A311 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 25/2/53. Sold.

854 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA312 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. D/d 23/3/53. Written off 14/4/68. Instructional as 8876M. RAF Preserved Manston History Museum.

855 T.31B Cadet TX3 XA313 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./6023/c.b.8a. Written off 13/6/56.
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Mk 3 Production list part 2

897 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE784 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. Written off 18/1/62.

898 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE785 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. 663 GS, Aberdeen Airport, 7/67. 662 GS, Arbroath. Sold.

899 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE786 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. 643 GS. 662 GS, Arbroath. CGMF store, RAF Syerston. Sold.

900 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE787 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. Written off 28/7/61.

901 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE788 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. Written off 7/5/60.

902 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE789 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. 662 GS, Arbroath. Sold.

903 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE790 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. ? GS RAF Debden, 9/73. 614 GS Weathersfield, 6/83. Sold.

904 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE791 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. 87 GS, Halesland. 635 VGS, Burtonwood. 645 GS, RAF Catterick, 1958 - 64. Sold.

905 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE792 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. Written off 1/9/55.

906 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE793 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. 87 GS, Halesland. 625 GS, RAF South Cerney. 622 GS Christchurch 1963. 626 GS. Instructional at RAF St Athan, 2/88 as 8666M. Sold.

907 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE794 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. RAF Finningley 9/74. 611 VGS, Swanton Morley.

908 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE795 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. CGS Store, RAF Syerston, 5/86. Sold.

909 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE796 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. Written off 5/5/65.

910 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE797 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. 645 GS, RAF Catterick, 1963 - 78. Written off 28/9/78. Nose with 645 VGS, Topcliffe, 7/06.

911 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE798 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. 'E' ACCGS, RAF Syerston. Written off at Syerston 24/8/84. Sold.

912 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE799 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. 44 GS, RAF Cottesmore, 7/53.644 VG, RAF Syerston. 'R' ACCGS, RAF Syerston. Instructional as 8943M. ACCGS, RAF Syerston. Sold.

913 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE800 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. 622 VGS, Old Sarum. Sold.

914 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE801 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. 611 VGS, Swanton Morley. 617 VGS, RAF Manston. Written off 18/9/78. Sold.

915 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE802 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. 624 VGS. CGMF store RAF Syerston. Sold.

916 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE803 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. Written off 17/7/61.

917 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE804 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. 611 VGS Swanton Morley. Written off, crashed on approach at Swanton Morley 18/8/65.

918 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE805 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. Written off 15/8/55.

919 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE806 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. 622 GS.

920 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE807 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. 633 GS, RAF Cosford, 1960. 625 GS, RAF South Cerney. 615 VGS, RAF Kenley. 616 VGS, RAF Henlow. Sold.

921 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE808 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. 617 VGS, 645 VGS, RAF Catterick, 1964 - 84. CGMF store, RAF Syerston. Sold.

922 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE809 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. 617 GS, RAF Hendon. Written off 16/7/62.

923 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE810 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. 611 VGS Swanton Morley. 616 VGS, RAF Henlow. 662 GS, Arbroath. Sold.

924 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE811 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. Written off 14/4/55.

925 T.31B Cadet TX3 XE812 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./9708/c.b.9b. ? GS RAF Debden, 9/73. 611 VGS Swanton Morley.

1169 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN194 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. Written off 2/6/69.

1170 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN195 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. Written off 17/4/64. To instructional duties as 7845M.

1171 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN196 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. 616 VGS RAF Henlow. 617 GS, RAF Hendon. Written off 7/6/69.

1172 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN197 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. Written off 2/5/65.

1173 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN198 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. Fuselage SSK/FF/1664. 661 VGS Kirknewton. 645 GS, 662 GS, Arbroath. RAF Catterick, 1965 - 78. Sold.

1174 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN199 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. Written off 26/11/70.

1175 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN236 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. 611 VGS, Swanton Morley. 662 GS, Arbroath. Written off 25/1/79.

1176 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN237 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. Written off 15/4/73 Nr West Malling.

1177 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN238 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. 611 VGS, Swanton Morley. 622 VGS. 626GS. Sold.

1178 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN239 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. 'G' ACCGS, RAF Syerston. Instructional as 8889M.

1179 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN240 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. 87 GS, Halesland. 621 GS Weston Super Mare. 626 GS. Sold.

1180 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN241 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. 625 GS, RAF South Cerney, 11/72 - 8/76. Sold.

1181 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN242 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. Destroyed in Hangar fire at Kenley 23/10/78.

1182 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN243 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. DD 2/6/59. Sold 1/5/85.

1183 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN244 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. DD 16/6/59. 626 GS. 635 VGS, Burtonwood, 12/12/59. 626 VGS, RNAS Predanack.

1184 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN245 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. DD 16/6/69. 616 VGS, RAF Henlow. Written off 8/6/72.

1185 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN246 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. DD 9/7/59. 87 GS Christchurch, 622 GS Christchurch 1955. 617 VGS, Hendon, Bovingdon and Manston. SOC 1986. Sold 14/9/87

1186 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN247 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. DD 14/7/59. 622 GS, Christchurch. Written off 21/8/62.

1187 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN248 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. DD 13/8/59. Written off 23/4/65.

1188 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN249 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. DD 18/8/59. Written off 21/6/64.

1189 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN250 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. DD 9/9/59. 616 VGS, RAF Henlow. 645 GS, RAF Catterick, 1976. Sold 2/1/79.

1190 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN251 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. DD 2/10/59. 87 GS, Halesland. 611 VGS, Swanton Morley. Written off 2/5/78

1191 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN252 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. DD 27/10/59. 611 VGS, Swanton Morley. Sold 21/8/86.

1192 T.31B Cadet TX3 XN253 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. DD 25/11/59. 616 VGS, RAF Henlow. Sold 17/9/85.
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Old 30th Jan 2009, 22:28
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Here's the other picture I have of me in Grasshopper XP490 (date confirmed from my log book as 22 May 1980, 3 'flights' that day, total time 1 minute!).

This picture was taken by Don Stanley, our Tech Drawing teacher and amateur photographer who wanted an action shot and positioned himself in front of me in the V of the bungee....



Note duty cadet in the background with the garden fork from which the machine was tethered as the bungee was stretched. I appear to be looking down waiting for the bungee ring to release. Damn smart beret though....
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Old 31st Jan 2009, 08:39
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621Andy

Here's one for you that didn't make it through. Spun in after intermediate cable break. Fortunately both occupants survived the accident.

Made of strong stuff those Mk IIIs!

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Old 31st Jan 2009, 17:09
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Whatever happened to the Vanguard?

Can anyone shed some light on what happened to the Vanguard? I had a week at Syerston with John Wynch on one in 1983.

He told me they were to be the new Glider for the cadets, but next thing I heard was that they had placed a big order for Grobs.

It was a brand new machine I was on, no pilots notes or anything. John Wynch said that he was writing them as he taught me!

They also had a Janus, but that was an instructors toy, as was the single seater, cant remember what that one was, an ASK 13 perhaps??

Anyway, always wondered why the Vanguard disappeared.
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Old 31st Jan 2009, 18:40
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The Vanguard known as gthe ASK21 in the civillian world lost out to Viking quite simply because Schleicher could not produce them fast enough without turning over the entire production line to the Air Cadets.

ZD643 Schleicher ASK-21 21141 Delivered 14/3/83. Ex BGA2884. ACCGS, RAF Syerston. 645 VGS, RAF Catterick, 1983. RAF Kemble Stored, 7/89. Sold as BGA3704/GBN.

ZD644 Schleicher ASK-21 21142 Delivered 11/3/83. Ex BGA2883. ACCGS, RAF Syerston. 645 VGS, RAF Catterick, 1983. RAF Kemble Stored, 7/89. Sold as BGA3697/GBF.

ZD645 Schleicher ASK-21 21143 Delivered 18/3/83. Ex BGA2885. ACCGS, RAF Syerston. 645 VGS, RAF Catterick, 1983. Stored at Kemble, 5/90. Sold as BGA3674/GAG.

ZD646 Schleicher ASK-21 21144 Delivered 24/3/83. Ex BGA2886. ACCGS, RAF Syerston. Stored at Kemble, 5/90. Sold as BGA3679/GAM.

ZD647 Schleicher ASK-21 21147 Delivered 25/3/83. Ex BGA2887. ACCGS, RAF Syerston. RAF Kemble Stored, 7/89. Sold as BGA2887/ERH.

ZD648 Schleicher ASK-21 21148 Delivered 28/3/83. Ex BGA2888. ACCGS, RAF Syerston. Sold as BGA2888/ERJ.

ZD649 Schleicher ASK-21 21149 Delivered 29/3/83. Ex BGA2889. ACCGS, RAF Syerston. RAF Kemble Stored, 7/89. Sold as BGA3711/GBV.

ZD650 Schleicher ASK-21 21150 Delivered 29/3/83. Ex BGA2890. ACCGS, RAF Syerston. 618 VGS, West Malling, 2/88. RAF Kemble Stored, 7/89. Sold as BGA3705/GBP.

ZD651 Schleicher ASK-21 21151 Delivered 29/3/83. Ex BGA2891. ACCGS, RAF Syerston, 7/88. RAF Kemble Stored, 7/89. Sold as BGA3712/GBW.

ZD652 Schleicher ASK-21 21152 Delivered 29/3/83. Ex BGA2892. ACCGS, RAF Syerston. 618 VGS, West Malling, 2/88. RAF Kemble Stored, 7/89. Sold as BGA3673/GAF.
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