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Old 7th Feb 2009, 22:05
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Hi STH
The T53/YS53 i did not think of as being particularly aerodynamically bad but they were effing heavy,which was enough to make 'scratching' difficult,also I am not sure if the YS53 had any control 'tweaks' compared to the original T53 but she was quite nice on the controls.
But i do agree that the 53 wing looks 'wrong',a swept forward 'hershey bar' wing is not pretty !!

Edit...comparing the YS53 photo against the early T53...looks like they increased the fin area quite substantially so presumably the early T53's had directional instability problems !!

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Just to add to your history of ATC Mk3's... I have WT913 in my old logbook 1970-72 at 613 Halton.

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Edit...comparing the YS53 photo against the early T53...looks like they increased the fin area quite substantially so presumably the early T53's had directional instability problems !!
I operated a Slingsby T53 as Reading University project pilot on meteorological reasearch 1970/72. I recall (and my logbook appears to confirm) that it soared surprisingly well, and the handling, albeit rather heavier in roll than a Ka13, was fine (including sufficient rudder for full aileron, and full spin recovery at aft CofG). I don't know the reasons for the Yorkshire Sailplanes mods, but was not impressed by the build quality of the example I saw.
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Ladies and Gentlemen, this thread seems to be creating some interest. Rather than hijack it, I'd just like to draw your attention to a thread which I have just started in Aviation History and Nostalgia - it seeks information, stories and photos on Syerston and 644 VGS - anything you could contribute would be most welcome.

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EON Eton TX1

So far on this thread we have mentioned Cadet Mk1 and 3, Sedburgh, Prefect, Swallow and Grasshopper, but the Eton TX1 has not had an airing yet. I know that 10 of these Elliott's built primary gliders almost identical to the German designed SG-38 were bought by the MOD. I would be interested to hear where they were based or see any photos of them. The only photo I have ever seen is of WP269.

WP262 Eon Eton TX1 Eon/P/030 W/O 1/61. Scrapped 1/61.

WP263 Eon Eton TX1 Eon/P/031 Delivered 10/7/51. W/O 27/3/52.

WP264 Eon Eton TX1 Eon/P/032 W/O, 5/6/70.

WP265 Eon Eton TX1 Eon/P/033 W/O at West Malling, 16/10/58.

WP266 Eon Eton TX1 Eon/P/034 W/O, 13/12/66. To RAFGSA as 337 , later 37 at RAF Dishforth

WP267 Eon Eton TX1 Eon/P/035 W/O, 15/8/69. Sold to BGA1625.

WP268 Eon Eton TX1 Eon/P/036 W/O, 14/4/61.

WP269 Eon Eton TX1 Eon/P/037 W/O, 13/12/66. To RAFGSA as 113 , later R13 at RAF Bicester. Sold as BGA3214/FEZ.

WP270 Eon Eton TX1 Eon/P/03861 GCF. 27MU, RAF Shawbury. To 8598M. Stored RAF Henlow. To RAF Museum Hendon. Mancherster Air & Space Museum. RAF Museum reserve collection, RAF Stafford.

WP271 Eon Eton TX1 Eon/P/039 W/O, 29/12/61.

Currently 3 of the aircraft survive, WP266 is stored near Dishforth, WP269 is airworthy at Keevil, and WP270 is stored by the RAF Museum.
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WE992 - Mk3 histories

Just a couple of observations from my log book, which show that from 1984 (when I joined) to 1986, at 617 VGS, Manston, I flew Mk3s WT910, WT917 and bizarrely, XE801, which your list shows as written off in 1978! WT910 and WT917 must therefore have 617 added to their lists of VGSs.

XN246 and T21 XN155 were also on the fleet.
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Crabbo just sent me the following pics. Apologies for quality, but they do sum up life at 621 in the winter

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Saw this video and thought you guys would be interested. I`m currently a glider pilot at Parham in Sussex, but previously flown at Lee on Solent and Dishforth. Had several flights in T21s, and in July had a 2 hour flight in the 21 at Lasham and was skipping along nicely at cloudbase, flew a nice little task for the T21 of Lasham - Basingstoke - Alton - Lasham. Great Fun.

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I flew the Eton at Bicester. It was dragged out on certain occaisions such as instructor courses. I seem to remember it was usually aerotowed as the winch launch often didn't get you enough height to make it back to the launch point! I aerotowed it to 3000'. one day - and I think I got back before the tug!

A 'Primary Streak' was where the pilot had to fly it naked! One day, a streaker who was famed for being a bit of a gobsh!te (to use a contemporary term) was towed by Andy Gough right across Bicester town at about 250' on a Saturday evening. Must have been a bit of a sight for the residents going out for a saturday night!



But my first experience of a 'primary'glider was on the school playing fields in our CCF's Grasshopper. I was deemed qualified to fly it as I had my gliding 'wings'. The flight was all of about ten seconds and was bloody scary. And it's the only flight in any of my logbooks which has the time 0:00 recorded.


Great vid of the Dutch T31. I loved the bit where the seagulls overtook it!

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A 'Primary Streak' was where the pilot had to fly it naked!
Did a certain hairy, orange creature ever do this?? I can just see the headlines in the Bicester Bugle or whatever their local rag is:

Alien alert! Chewbacca seen over Bicester!!
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As featured on the cover of "The Way We Were- Vol 1" - 1985 if I am correct
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ASK21 - Vanguards

WE992....

Small addition/correction to your K.21 unit histories:

ZD643, 644 and 645 were delivered to 645 on 1st July '83 -First entry in my logbook 3rd July '83. IIRC we only had three.

First entry for the Grobs was 21 November 1984. K21's went shortly after. Fairly certain, but not 100%, the K-21's went to West Malling thence I know not where.

As an aside, last entry for wooden in my 6748 is Mk III, XE796 was 7 Oct 1984 - but I remember I wasn't one of the last ones to fly them!.

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618VGS at West Malling did indeed have K21s. Probably then to CGMF's pile at Syerston...
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6 Vanguards (ASK-21) as I remember at 618VGS - we got all the K21's eventually apart from 2 which remained at Syerston. I always thought Catterick was small to operate the K21 on the eagle winch but West Malling was a fantastic site for the Air Cadet Operation, hard surfaces, large grass areas, big hangars, unobstructed approaches, uncontrolled airspace, no other major airfield users - no wonder they built all over it (wuckfits !!)

Personally I thought that the K21 and the current Grobs were chalk and cheese - the K21 was a fantastic aeroplane all round and the Grob a real plastic pig. Heavy controls, not enough rudder, ran out of elevator quickly with a heavy front cockpit load and insufficient rear trim. No suprise that Grob could deliver so many so quickly - they had a bundle of them sat on the shelf because the Germans did not want them........... and they know a thing or two about sailplanes.................. :-) - IIRC Group Captain J*** D******** was the agent for Grob at the time and may have been a powerful lobbyist

I always thought it was a shame Slingsby did not licence build the K21 like they did the T61 - that would have made production and delivery much faster. I was told that Schleicher would not lend out moulds anymore though becuase they had been stung by Centrair building the Pegasus 101 from ASW19 moulds and either undercutting prices or not paying licencing fees (can't remember which) - although that might just be rumour

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Slingsby Built T.21's

I've listed the other types so here we go with the much loved T21.

T.21B VX275 C/n 539 Ex BGA572. Donated to 123 Gliding School. 612 VGS RAF Benson, 613 VGS, 623 VGS. Allocated 8884M. RAF Museum stored at RAF Wyton, RAF Cosford, RAF Stafford.

T.21B WB484 C/n 541 Ex BGA575. Purchased by 87 Gliding School, Weston Supermare, 9/6/49. Written off 13/5/52.

T.21B WB919 C/n 554 Ex BGA637 & G-ALLH. To RAF 14/4/49 . 611 VGS, Swanton Morley. Sold 20/8/85. To BGA3174.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB920 C/n 559 Written off 8/1/50. To BGA649. To WB920. Empire Test Pilots School. 645 GS, RAF Catterick, 1978. Stored at RAF Syerston. Sold 14/8/85. To BGA3221.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB921 C/n 560 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 28/11/51. Written off 1/6/60. SOC 8/6/60 Cat 5(s).

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB922 C/n 585 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 13/6/49. 615 VGS, RAF Kenley. 662 GS, Arbroath. 663 GS, Aberdeen Airport, 7/67. Sold 24/8/87. To BGA4366. To 621 VGS Syndicate, Hullavington Feb 04.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB923 C/n 586 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 28/6/49. Fuselage, SSK/FF/1085. 662 GS, Arbroath. CGS Store, RAF Syerston, 5/86. Sold 7/8/86. To BGA3292.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB924 C/n 587 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 28/6/49. Sold 20/10/87 to Axxes Aviation. To BGA3901.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB925 C/n588 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 5/7/49. 123 GS, 623 GS, White Walthan. Written off 24/1/58. SOC 8/4/58 as Cat 5(c). To RAFGSA AS 212.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB926 C/n 589 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 11/7/49. 92 GS, RAF Colerne. 633 GS, RAF Cosford. Sold 14/8/85 to North Devon G C. To BGA3520.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1WB927 C/n 590 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered7/49. 631 VGS, RAF Sealand 1973. Written off 30/12/83. Scrapped at Slingsby's.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB928 C/n 591 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 3/8/49. 68 GS, RAF St Athan. Written off 13/12/61. SOC 11/7/63 as Cat 5(c).

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB929 C/n 592 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 8/49. 83 GS, Aston Down. 621 GS, Weston Super Mare. 615 GS, Kenley. Destroyed in Hangar fire at Kenley 23/10/78.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB930 C/n 593 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 22/8/49. Written off 13/5/51. SOC 18/5/51 as Cat 5 (S).

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB931 C/n 594 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 6/9/49. 611 VGS, Swanton Morley. Written off 11/3/50. SOC 14/4/50 as Cat 5 (s).

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB932 C/n 595 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 6/9/49. CGS Store, RAF Syerston, 5/86. Sold 9/9/86.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB933 C/n 596 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 12/9/49. Sold 21/11/55, to BGA732.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB934 C/n 601 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 26/9/49. 611 VGS, Swanton Morley. 618GS. CGS Store, RAF Syerston, 5/86. Sold 19/8/86 to McClean Aviation, Rufforth. To BGA3385.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB935 C/n 602 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 27/9/49. 125 GS, Langley. Sold 19/8/86 to Axxes Aviation. To BGA4110.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB936 C/n 603 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 3/10/49. 183 GS, Woodford. Written off 19/3/50.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB937 C/n 604 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 1/6/50. 622 GS, Christchurch. 645 GS, RAF Catterick, 1982. 662 GS, Arbroath. CGS Store, RAF Syerston, 7/86. Sold 3/9/86.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB938 C/n 605 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 17/10/49. RAF Halton Glider Flt, 6/84. CGS Store, RAF Syerston. Sold 6/8/86.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB939 C/n 606 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 24/10/49. Sold 20/8/85 to Ailsa Soaring Club. To BGA3220.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB940 C/n. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 31/10/49. Participated in Battle of Britain flying display at Tangmere, 19/9/53. 615 GS, Kenley. Destroyed in hangar fire at Kenley 23/10/78.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB941 C/n 608 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 31/10/49. 126 GS, Booker. Sold 20/8/85. To BGA3219.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB942 C/n 609 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 7/11/49. 84 GS, 624 GS, Exeter. 626 GS. ACCGS, RAF Syerston. Sold 21/8/86.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB943 C/n 610 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 11/49. 625 GS, RAF South Cerney, 5/74 - 8/76. Sold 1/11/83. To BGA2941.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB944 C/n 611 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 22/11/49. 622 GS, Christchurch. 622 GS, Old Sarum, 1974. 622 VGS, Upavon. Sold 7/5/85. To BGA3160.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB945 C/n 612 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 29/11/49. 122 GS, 613 GS RAF Halton. Written off 26/7/58. SOC 30/7/58 as Cat 5( c ). To RAFGSA as 242. To BGA1254.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB946 C/n 613 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 5/12/49. 631 VGS, RAF Sealand. Sold 16/1/86.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB947 C/n 614 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 13/12/49. 634 GS, RAF St Athan. Sold 20/8/85. To BGA3230.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB948 C/n 615 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 28/12/49. 622 GS, Christchurch. Written off 15/8/65. To RAFGSA as 360. To BGA1521.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB955 C/n 616 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 2/1/50. Written off 8/1/50. To BGA649.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB956 C/n 617 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 2/1/50. Written off 15/4/55. SOC 18/4/55 as Cat 5 (s).

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB957 C/n 618 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 9/1/50. Written off 31/7/50.To BGA662, 19/3/51. To RAFGSA as 120 at Linton on Ouse. To BGA2720EJJ.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB958 C/n 619 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 11/10/50. Sold 21/8/86 to Ailsa Soaring Club. To BGA3243.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB959 C/n 620 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 1/50. 625 GS, RAF South Cerney, 9/71 - 8/76. Sold 31/10/83. To BGA2975.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB960 C/n 621 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 23/1/50. 645 VGS, RAF Catterick, 1983. CGS Store, RAF Syerston, 12/87. Sold 22/10/87 to Axxes Aviation.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB961 C/n 622 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 6/2/50. 106 GS, RAF Henlow. 661 VGS Kirknewton. Sold 22/10/87 to Axxes Aviation. To BGA4856.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB962 C/n 623 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 8/2/50. Sold 25/6/87. To BGA3836.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB963 C/n 624 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 20/2/50. 616 VGS, RAF Henlow. 636 VGS, Swansea, 1/86. Sold 2/9/87 to Southern Sailplanes. T

.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB964 C/n 625 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 20/2/50. To Slingsby for repair. Destroyed by fire at Kirbymoorside 18/11/68.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB965 C/n 626 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 27/2/50. Written off 5/4/54 as Cat 5( c ) .

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB966 C/n 627 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 2/3/50. Cat 5c, SOC 23/8/62. To RAFGSA as 314.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB967 C/n 628 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 7/3/50. 82 GS, St Merryn. Written off 21/5/64. To RAFGSA as 338. To BGA1352.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB968 C/n 629 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 16/3/50. 31 GS, Unsworth, 1950. Written off 19/2/51.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB969 C/n 630 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 27/3/50. Written off 21/1/58. SOC 29/1/58 as Cat 5(s). To RAFGSA as 247. To BGA2036.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB970 C/n 631 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 27/3/50. Written off at RAF Halton 16/8/71.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB971 C /n 632 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 20/4/50. Sold 13/12/85. To BGA3324.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB972 C/n 633 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 28/8/54. 611 VGS, Swanton Morley. 645 GS , RAF Catterick, 1965. ? GS RAF Debden 9/73. 662 GS, Arbroath. CGS Store, RAF Syerston, 5/86. Sold 3/9/86.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB973 C/n 634 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./3588/c.b.9a. Delivered 11/10/50. 617GS, RAF Hendon. 624 VGS, RAF Chivenor, 1971. 634 GS, RAF St Athan. Sold 22/10/87 to Axxes Aviation. To BGA4135.

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T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB992 C/n 660 633 GS, RAF Cosford 1960. ACCGS Store. Sold 6/08/86. To BGA3492.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WG496 C/n 663 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./5048/c.b.9c. DD 19/4/51. RAF Halton Glider Flt, 6/84. CGS Store, RAF Syerston, 5/86. Sold 6/8/86. To BGA3243.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WG497 C/n 664 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./5048/c.b.9c. DD 2/5/51. RAF Finningley, 9/71. Sold 20/8/85.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WG498 C/n 665 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./5048/c.b.9c. DD 4/6/51. Sold 21/8/86.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WG499 C/n 666 RAF. Contract No 6/Acft./5048/c.b.9c. DD 26/10/51. 645 VGS RAF Middleton St George, 9/58. 612GS. Sold 29/8/85. To BGA4707.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WJ306 C/n 654 617 GS RAF Hendon, (9/64). 626 GS. CGS Store, RAF Syerston, 5/86. Sold. To BGA3240.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 XN146 C/n 1150 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. Sold 6/4/63. To BGA1110. Wrecked c.1975.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 XN147 C/n 1151 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. Written off 1/9/66. To RAFGSA as 369. To BGA1482. T

.21B Sedburgh TX1 XN148 C/n 1152 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. Sold. To BGA3287.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 XN149 C/n 1153 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. Written off 17/8/66.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 XN150 C/n 1154 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. CGS Store, RAF Syerston, 5/86. Sold. To BGA3774.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 XN151 C/n 1155 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. 634 GS, RAF St Athan. Sold. To BGA3235.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 XN152 C/n 1156 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. 616 GS. Written off at Halesland 12/7/60.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 XN153 C/n 1157 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. Written off 6/7/62. To RAFGSA as 313. To BGA2024.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 XN154 C/n 1158 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. Written off 20/4/64. To RAFGSA as 333. To BGA1465.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 XN155 C/n 1159 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. 617 GS, RAF Hendon. 617VGS, RAF Manston 84 - 86. Sold. To BGA4833.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 XN156 C/n 1160 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. 624 GS, Exeter. 633 GS. Sold. To BGA3250.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 XN157 C/n 1161 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. 186 GS, Hawarden. 631 GS, Harwarden. 631 VGS, RAF Sealand. 635 GS Burtonwood. Sold. To BGA3255.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 XN183 C/n 1162 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. Written off 22/8/63. To RAFGSA as 318. To BGA1354.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 XN184 C/n 1163 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. Written off 29/4/64. To RAFGSA 339,

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 XN185 C/n 1164 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a., 633VGS, 635 VGS, Burtonwood. 643 VGS. 644 VGS, RAF Syerston, 7/86. Instructional use as 8942M. To BGA4077. RAF Museum Reserve Collection, Stafford,

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 XN186 C/n 1165 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. Sold. To BGA3905.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 XN187 C/n 1166 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. 662 GS, Arbroath. Stored 4 MGSP, RAF Dishforth, 7/86. Sold.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 XN188 C/n 1167 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. Written off 7/9/63. To BGA1588.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 XN189 C/n 1168 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. Sold 27/3/63. To BGA1144.

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Martin Hearn Built T21's

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB974 C/n MH001 Built by Martin Hearn Ltd in 1949. Delivered 21/10/49 to Axxes Aviation. Sold 22/10/87. To BGA3423.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB975 C/n MH002 Built by Martin Hearn Ltd in 1949. Delivered 31/10/50. 662 GS, Arbroath. 661 GS, Kirknewton. Sold 21/08/86. To BGA3288.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB976 C/n MH003 Built by Martin Hearn Ltd in 1949. Delivered 18/11/49. 642 GS, RAF Rufforth, 11/50. 611 VGS, Swanton Morley. Sold 22/08/85. To BGA3297.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB977 C/n MH004 Built by Martin Hearn Ltd in 1949. Delivered 25/11/49. 644GS, RAF Spittlegate. Written off 19/05/57. SOC 21/5/57 as Cat 5( c ).

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB978 C/n MH005 Built by Martin Hearn Ltd in 1949. Delivered 1/12/49. 611 VGS, Swanton Morley. 616 VGS, RAF Henlow. Sold 12/08/85. To BGA3189.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB979 C/n MH006 Built by Martin Hearn Ltd in 1949. Delivered 14/12/49. 31GS RAF Unsworth 1950. 645 VGS RAF Middleton St George, 9/58. 645 GS RAF Catterick, 5/60 - 1983. Sold 22/10/87 to Axxes Aviation.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB980 C/n MH007 Built by Martin Hearn Ltd in 1949. Delivered 29/12/49. 616 VGS, RAF Henlow. 626 VGS, RNAS Predanack. Sold 6/08/86. To BGA3290.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB981 C/n MH008 Built by Martin Hearn Ltd in 1949. Awaiting collection 30/12/49. Allocated to 42GS, Bramcote, later Cosford, 3/01/50. Declared cat 4R following accident, 4/09/50. To Slingsby for repair 20/09/50. Allocated to 9MU RAF Cosford. 13/12/50. 125GS, Langley, 6/06/51. Cat 4R after flying accident, 20/06/52. To Slingsby 3/07/52. Gliding Instructors School RAF Detling 20/10/52. Declared cat 4R after accident 8/02/53. Returned to Slingsby 20/03/53. Allocated to 9MU RAF Cosford 25/05/53. Transferred to 10 MU, RAF Brize Norton, 2/01/56. to Gliding Instructors School Hawkinge 19/03/58. 1GC Swnton Morley 8/12/61. 611GS Swanton Morley 8/08/77. 635GS Burtonwood 24/04/78. Sold 7/01/86 to MJ Lake, Pulborough. To BGA3238.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB982 C/n MH009 Built by Martin Hearn Ltd in 1950. Delivered 13/10/50. Written off 31/01/54. SOC 16/2/54 as Cat 5( c )

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB983 C/n MH010 Built by Martin Hearn Ltd in 1950. Delivered 27/1/50. 633 GS, RAF Cosford. ACCGS, RAF Syerston. 634 VGS, RAF St Athan. Sold 20/08/85. To BGA3175.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB984 C/n MH011 Built by Martin Hearn Ltd in 1950. Delivered 9/2/50. Written off 23/03/56.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB985 C/n MH012 Built by Martin Hearn Ltd in 1950. Delivered 20/2/50. 105 GS, Cambridge. 611 VGS, Swanton Morley. 645 GS, RAF Catterick 1960 - 1983. Sold 07/85.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB986 C/n MH013 Built by Martin Hearn Ltd in 1950. Delivered 21/2/50. 617 GS, RAF Hendon 31/3/68. 617 GS, RAF Bovingdon. Sold 9/09/86. To BGA3265.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB987 C/n MH014 Built by Martin Hearn Ltd in 1950. Delivered 28/2/50. Fuselage SSK/FF/1161. 611 VGS, Swanton Morley. 662 GS, Arbroath. Stored 4 MGSP, RAF Dishforth, 7/86. CGS Store, RAF Syerston, 12/87. Sold 22/10/87 to Axxes Aviation. To BGA3338.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB988 C/n MH015 RAF. Contract No KF/2R/04/C.B.25 a. Delivered 7/3/50. Written off 29/4/64.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB989 C/n MH016 Built by Martin Hearn Ltd in 1950. Delivered 21/3/50. 616 VGS, RAF Henlow. 635GS Burtonwood. Sold 13/12/85 to Leeds University G C. To BGA3195.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB990 C/n MH017 Built by Martin Hearn Ltd in 1950. Delivered 30/3/50. 89 GS, 622 GS, Christchurch. 622 GS, Old Sarum. 1963. Sold 16/04/85. To BGA3148.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB991 C/n MH018 Built by Martin Hearn Ltd in 1950. Delivered 5/4/50. 622 GS Christchurch 1963. 621 VGS, Weston Super Mare. CGS Store, RAF Syerston, 5/86. Sold 9/09/86. To BGA3264.

T.21B Sedburgh TX1 WB993 C/n MH019 Built by Martin Hearn Ltd in 1950. Delivered 2/6/50. 622 GS Christchurch 1963. 635 GS Burtonwood. 631 VGS, RAF Sealand. Sold 7/01/86. To BGA3225.
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I'm glad I didn't know about WB981's chequered history when I covered spins and unusual attitudes on my C cat course at Swanton Moreley.
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F/O Alan Pond?

Sounds lie Alan Pond, later of GGS at Syerston.

From my old memories locker:
A+B Certs RAF Sealand with Fg Off Pete Eyes. 'Local character' Jim Chaplin
CI (commissioned in '82) flying T21 and T31 at 663 VGS Kinloss 1978-86. Boss was Reg Weston, then Lawrie Beaton (legend). C Cat at Syerston with Lloyd Poulton (quote 'Ladley, why are you walking loik thet, you uke loik eweve got a pineapple up yer are!'), B Cat with Bruce 'Strap yourself into the bollocking chamber' Tapson
'86 converted to Ventures. B Conversion
c '89 converted again to Vigilants, A2 course with Lee Hood, awarded by Robin Miller (anecdote; tomato sauce bottle exploded over my flying kit at lunch just before waklking out for my A Cat FHT; Robin sagely pronounces "Shake and shake the ketchup bottle, none'll come - and then a lot'll")
Retired in '92 to spend more time with my own kids instead of other peoples' - but they were great times, fondly remembered through this thread.

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Re John Wynch and the T53

You're right - ace bloke. Real 'down to earth glider pilot' if that isn't a contradiction in terms. He got his hands some rather more exotic RAF glider purchases later - I particularly remember a series of splendid trips with John in a Janus C at Portmoak
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