Cosford 'Cold War Exhibition'
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Cosford 'Cold War Exhibition'
The 'Cold War Exhibition' in the spectacular new purpose-built exhibition hall at the RAF Museum at Cosford seems to be coming along nicely. It featured on the BBC 1 o'clock News today and is likely to be fully open at the beginning of February. More strength to their (collective) elbows 
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Visted Cosford the middle of November and we were disapointed we were unable to see the Cold War set up, the Hangar looks interesting from the out side.
We looked around the rest of the museum and it was realy good, we will have to make another visit but it is not easy as we have a lot of water to cross.
Shame the British Airways collection had to good althouth Cosford is off the beat and track, with a new exibition open one would hope they will attrack a lot of interest.
Look forward to the opening in February all the best to them.
We looked around the rest of the museum and it was realy good, we will have to make another visit but it is not easy as we have a lot of water to cross.
Shame the British Airways collection had to good althouth Cosford is off the beat and track, with a new exibition open one would hope they will attrack a lot of interest.
Look forward to the opening in February all the best to them.
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Some photos from the new exhibition here - http://perspective-ihalfpennygreen.p.../c1180588.html
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Those of us that fly at Cosford don't think much of the new hangar. In a fresh Nor' Westerly it is a perfect vortex generator that makes your eyes water on finals. On the plus side, it can be seen from 25 miles away on a sunny day.
Seriously, it is excellent that so many airframes are now under cover.
Seriously, it is excellent that so many airframes are now under cover.
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From having had the opportunity to have a walk around the new exhibition already, there are always going to be +ve's and -ve's.
I think the best way to go into the new exhibition is with the thought 'Cold War Exhibition' and not aircraft museum in mind, that way Im sure you will get a lot more pleasure out of the visit. Yes it is tight and difficult for photography but the aircraft are protected and tell an important story.
The building itself provides a talking point with its design, again some will love it some will hate it. OK perhaps the shape and space is strange for aircraft storage, but at least its not just another box. There is also story behind the design with a central wall of light seperating a dark side from a light side. The light side featuring the slightly lighter note of the cold war, humanitarian aid / Berlin airlift aircraft etc whilst the dark side features the threat of nuclear war and the weapons and systems associated with it.
Would I prefer to see some of the aircraft out in the open for nice photography, of course I would but then I also want to see these types preserved properly for the future. Realistically quite a few of the exhibits have been available for viewing externally for a number of years, Vulcan, Victor, Javelin, Belfast, Jetstream etc as for the others, personally I think its important that aircraft such as the Valiant are preserved under cover (look what happened to the Beverley at Hendon).
I visited expecting to be disappointed at the layout which I thought would tarnish my view of the exhibition, I came away excited and full of praise with a completely different view of the exhibition.
I think the best way to go into the new exhibition is with the thought 'Cold War Exhibition' and not aircraft museum in mind, that way Im sure you will get a lot more pleasure out of the visit. Yes it is tight and difficult for photography but the aircraft are protected and tell an important story.
The building itself provides a talking point with its design, again some will love it some will hate it. OK perhaps the shape and space is strange for aircraft storage, but at least its not just another box. There is also story behind the design with a central wall of light seperating a dark side from a light side. The light side featuring the slightly lighter note of the cold war, humanitarian aid / Berlin airlift aircraft etc whilst the dark side features the threat of nuclear war and the weapons and systems associated with it.
Would I prefer to see some of the aircraft out in the open for nice photography, of course I would but then I also want to see these types preserved properly for the future. Realistically quite a few of the exhibits have been available for viewing externally for a number of years, Vulcan, Victor, Javelin, Belfast, Jetstream etc as for the others, personally I think its important that aircraft such as the Valiant are preserved under cover (look what happened to the Beverley at Hendon).
I visited expecting to be disappointed at the layout which I thought would tarnish my view of the exhibition, I came away excited and full of praise with a completely different view of the exhibition.
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I'd prefer to see a Vulcan in a "Cold War" exhibition wearing 'V' Force colours. Either all white or with a camouflage top/white bottom and black radome. That horrid all over camouflage is from the sad days after they were downgraded to ancillary duties. Knocking a few holes in a far away runway was a fantastic piece of logistics and all very well, but the Valiant, Victor and Vulcans' part in the Cold War was all about vapourising entire cities.
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I am just hoping that it will be better than the appalling IWM North.
This current trend towards contextualisation in museums is all very well (and, after all, Caernarfon Air World has been doing it very nicely for years), but when the contextualisation effort obscures the exhibits which, let's face it, most punters are going there for, it's a bad show all round.
This current trend towards contextualisation in museums is all very well (and, after all, Caernarfon Air World has been doing it very nicely for years), but when the contextualisation effort obscures the exhibits which, let's face it, most punters are going there for, it's a bad show all round.
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This current trend towards contextualisation in museums is all very well
It was still a work in progress when I was there in the Summer but from What I could see over the barriers it will be well worth a return visit this year.
Shame the NMSI at Wroughton wasn't treated with similar understanding for context.
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Yes, and in modern times I understand the necessity for museums to pull funding for wherever possible especially since the abolition of entry fees for publicly-funded museums.
I'm trying not to sound like a doom-merchant, but my experience of 'modern' military museums is one of the fluffy-wuffy brigade having designed space, light, sound and emotions and almost no exhibits! The 'artwork' at IWM North consisting of the material of unpicked WW2 forage caps was vandalism at its worst, ironically I would have preferred to see them in their original context!
As a cold-war armchair historian, I'm waiting with anticipation to be proven wrong by Cosford!
IIRC, doesn't Greater Manchester Council have an anti-war policy hence no combat a/c at the Air Museum? Bizarre to have a national museum there Not at all the case with Cosford, one would hope
Yes, and in modern times I understand the necessity for museums to pull funding for wherever possible especially since the abolition of entry fees for publicly-funded museums.
I'm trying not to sound like a doom-merchant, but my experience of 'modern' military museums is one of the fluffy-wuffy brigade having designed space, light, sound and emotions and almost no exhibits! The 'artwork' at IWM North consisting of the material of unpicked WW2 forage caps was vandalism at its worst, ironically I would have preferred to see them in their original context!
As a cold-war armchair historian, I'm waiting with anticipation to be proven wrong by Cosford!
IIRC, doesn't Greater Manchester Council have an anti-war policy hence no combat a/c at the Air Museum? Bizarre to have a national museum there
Not at all the case with Cosford, one would hope
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I guess I'll reserve judgement until I see it for real. There is a bit about its concept in this month's Aeroplane mag, within a four-page interview with the Director of the RAF Museum.
As for the dangly aircraft, I used to have several Airfix ones in my bedroom ceiling. It'll all end in tears when Mum decides to dust them.
As for the dangly aircraft, I used to have several Airfix ones in my bedroom ceiling. It'll all end in tears when Mum decides to dust them.
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As for the dangly aircraft, I used to have several Airfix ones in my bedroom ceiling. It'll all end in tears when Mum decides to dust them
Then you get the Mig 15, and fly it with a live banger (firework not sausage) up its bum, and blow it to bits
Followed by a victory roll in a USN F4.
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Airfix explosions
Then you tie cotton from bedroom window to the ground and fly them
Then you get the Mig 15, and fly it with a live banger (firework not sausage) up its bum, and blow it to bits
Followed by a victory roll in a USN F4.
Yes I had an interesting childhood; I'll get my coat!!
Then you get the Mig 15, and fly it with a live banger (firework not sausage) up its bum, and blow it to bits
Followed by a victory roll in a USN F4.
Yes I had an interesting childhood; I'll get my coat!!
5 penny bangers with longer fuses wrapped around the fuselage of a Stuka did a reasonable amount of damage - always felt sorry for the poor dog he liked to jump up and catch them on the way down.
Stuka 1 Dog Nil.
Must admit to burning/melting the net curtains on the odd occassion when the fuses were made in a rush.
Wonder where we would be today if we could have continued our childhood skills in similar fashion!!!
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Got to go one better - used to strap small medicine bottle full of petrol to penny bunger then strap to model on string - light fuse and let go - impressive explosion!
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With visiting at a weekend if the weather is O.K. people will be out and avout and when thing are FREE you must expect a very good attendance.
The onlt way round this is to do a charge the you would not get the same result so you cant please all the people all the time.
The way round this is to make shaw you arrive at opening and be one of the first in which we did back in November.
As for compacting things in i do agree but at the end of the day it all depends on space so to make full use of it whing will be tight with aircraft hanging from roofs does help take into account the one hanging at the new aerospace hangar at Duxford.
When we were there in November we were unable to see the cold war as it has only just opened so we intend to go back we will make shaw we time it rite as we have a long way to travel in a boat.
With visiting at a weekend if the weather is O.K. people will be out and avout and when thing are FREE you must expect a very good attendance.
The onlt way round this is to do a charge the you would not get the same result so you cant please all the people all the time.
The way round this is to make shaw you arrive at opening and be one of the first in which we did back in November.
As for compacting things in i do agree but at the end of the day it all depends on space so to make full use of it whing will be tight with aircraft hanging from roofs does help take into account the one hanging at the new aerospace hangar at Duxford.
When we were there in November we were unable to see the cold war as it has only just opened so we intend to go back we will make shaw we time it rite as we have a long way to travel in a boat.
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Planning a visit in a couple of months' time. I "did" the Udvar-Hazy last year and they have quite a bit of the dangly crazy-angles type thing there but obviously have more space - it actually enhanced the place rather than detracted from it. I hope this one isn't going to be a disappointment as we'll (the wife and I) be travelling quite a distance to get to it. Can anyone recommedn any board and lodgings round about, just in case we decide to make it an overnighter?