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Old 11th May 2007, 11:10
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Sorry if I offended you, evansb. Been stuck in OLDER history, of course.

Would'a been interesting to see all of it, as the prop was placed far forward.
(Now that it is recent history and may be hard to stumble across...)

BTW - enjoyed your vast number of photos in another thread.
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Old 11th May 2007, 11:36
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Here is a portion of the mystery ship:

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Old 11th May 2007, 11:37
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Flightstar Spyder, IISL ?
or
Phantom 2
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Old 11th May 2007, 11:45
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windriver, sorry, not the Flightstar Spyder. The mystery aircraft was a bit more substantial.

See Thread #1482.
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Or the Phantom?

I`ve exhausted the EAA links... Guessing it's Rotax powered with a tail boom.
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Old 11th May 2007, 11:54
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Two-place, Rotax powered, tail-boom type aft-fuselage. Ask away...
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Old 11th May 2007, 16:07
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The aircraft is not from North America, nor is it from Great Britain. The aircraft was developed in 2002.
The airframe complies with European JAR VLA standards. The airframe is metal, with a totally enclosed fiberglass cockpit. Floats and skis were an available option. Max. speed was listed as 124-mph. It is not Czech or Polish.

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Old 11th May 2007, 16:58
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Thanks... just getting into my stride when work got in the way and interrupted my flow....

Just confirm it's not a Phantom... There's only 2 I found with that configuration.... PFA next
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Old 11th May 2007, 17:15
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windriver, not a Phantom.
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Old 11th May 2007, 17:32
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Awww, so not an amphib. Wonder then why placing the prop so high? Interesting VLA though. (Gotta get used to these modern thingies, yeah I know they often have better performance than old standard a/c...)

Have hailed a friend expert on homebuilds, who visits Sun n Fun practically every year. Hang on for another hour, to see if he recognises the critter.

Thanks evansb for exercising our "gray matter" so well!
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Old 11th May 2007, 18:49
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OK, my friend had noticed it at Sun n Fun.

He could not recall the name, but believed it was either German or Italian.

Hit the web, guys!
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Old 11th May 2007, 18:53
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Looks like a variation of this:

Ikarus
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Old 11th May 2007, 19:05
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Before today I was never aware that such a configuration existed in this class of aircraft... I've found at least 6 similar types on my travels.. but not the model in question sadly....

It's a voyage of discovery .....
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Old 11th May 2007, 19:13
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The prop placement looks identical. Gee, never even knew something like that was invented yet.

But the doors and fuselage are different from evansb previous pic. What nationality is your Ikaros?

Back to the drawing board!
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Old 11th May 2007, 19:22
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It would be handy to know some weights... is this an Ultralight?
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Old 11th May 2007, 19:23
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What nationality is your Ikaros?
Comco Ikarus GmbH
Flugplatz Mengen
D - 88367 Hohentengen
Germany
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Old 11th May 2007, 19:36
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My friend believed it was German or Italian. Now you may have provided the answer.

The model evansb gave us was never produced, but same placement of powerplant/prop suggest a relation.

Thanks, all!

Edit 1:
Seems to have been in the UL category.

Edit 2:
In them older days such high placement of powerplant was used solely on amphibs to prevent drawing waterspray into prop because they sit low in the water.

Curious as to why this is used on a land plane. Maybe some aerodynamic gain?

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Old 11th May 2007, 20:58
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The challenge aircraft was marketed with much optimism by Great American Aircraft of Chicago, Illinois. The aircraft was featured on the front cover of Popular Mechanics magazine a couple of years ago.
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Old 11th May 2007, 21:12
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Got to be the Great American Aircaft Sigma



Interesting engine out I`d imagine....
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windriver is spot on Last supported by Elitar of Russia, the Samara Sigma seems to have disappeared from the world of general aviation.

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