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What Cockpit? MK V

Old 23rd Feb 2007, 12:40
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You are correct in your statement that Henschel produced the HS-125, in 1934 and it was a single seat open cockpit monoplane. However they only built the aircraft in prototype form.

The subject aircraft was not built by Henschel. As stated at Post #769 the company only produced 20+ aircraft of this type. A later model of the aircraft went on to break a distance record before WWII.
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Old 23rd Feb 2007, 17:36
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This one seems to be causing a problem. So another clue, the company that built this little aircraft is reported to have built some 11,000 BF 109 between 1937 to 1945.

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Old 23rd Feb 2007, 19:27
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BF 109 sub-contactors:

Ago, Arado, Erla and WNF

Of which only Arado are on the 'No' list

Erla 5 HB-SEX!!


If its right, does anybody want to take the next one, I prefer the chase
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Old 23rd Feb 2007, 19:34
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Great,it certainly is the Erla 5a now Swiss Registered HB-SEX.
You have control.

MelErla Maschinenwerk GmbH Leipzig in 1934 developed a program to produce light airplanes and created the 5A and 5D aircraft.
Erla produced the V in 1932 and itís suitability for aerobatics led the Erla 5a and then developed the Erla 5 D with 50 an HP Zuendapp engine. The Erla 5 D was similar to the 5a but with a better engine. In August 1939 Heinz Gabler broke the long-distance world record in the 2-Liter-Class with a Erla 5 D on a flight of over 1909,833 km from Friedichshafen at the Bodensee to Vaennaes in the north of Sweden.


Erla also won some production orders for license built aircraft.
The following formed their schedule of work:
1935 - 24 Arado Ar65,
1936 - 80 Heinkel He 51,
1937 - 76 Arado Ar 68,
1937 - 106 Go 145,
1941 - 223 DFS 230,
1940 to 1943 - BF110 wings,
1937 to 1945 approx.. 11,000 BF 109;
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Old 23rd Feb 2007, 19:40
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Interestingly the cockpit appears to have an additional 'instrument' on it now that isnt present on the 'donor' image. The vertical white panel under the turn and slip just right of centre, low on the panel.

I dont know if a wildcard is playing the game, but if anybody wants a go, take it away, otherwise I will post one tomorrow (Sat) am.

I never would have got this in a month of sundays without the clues. I have never even heard of the company before.
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Old 23rd Feb 2007, 19:56
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Thanks for the later photograph, the one I published was taken in 1980, hence the change. I am sure that we could wait for your challenge tomorrow.
I will admit until a few weeks ago I too had never heard of ERLA, that is the beauty of PPRuNe even the old and bold like myself learn something new every day.
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Old 23rd Feb 2007, 21:31
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Old 24th Feb 2007, 14:30
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No volunteers, so here is one that is slightly differant from those of late.
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Saab J-29 Tunnan ?

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Old 24th Feb 2007, 15:59
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Not a J29.......sorry
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SAAB Draken perhaps?
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Mel has it (again)

Saab Draken at the Austrian Aviation Museum.

"You have control"
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Next Challenge

One for the night shift.

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Old 25th Feb 2007, 08:07
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I'll dip my toes after a long absence to offer the Heinkel 162.

And because I'm confident in my answer, but also likely to be away from the 'puter for a large part of the day, I'll post the next one...

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Great to see you back. As you so rightly say it is the Heinkel He.162 Salamander
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Old 25th Feb 2007, 11:33
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He162

As an aside, I was heavily involved in the restoration of He162 Werke Nummer 120227 at RAF Colerne in the early seventies. Most of the instruments and the spring ejector seat were missing but amazingly, the MG151 20mm canons were still installed complete with firing pins! The armament section made them safe pdq - what a gift they would have made for a certain terrorist organisation active at that time.
A very interesting aircraft - twelve weeks between design and first flight!
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I will take a wild guess that it is the cockpit of a Hawker Fury. The stick is similar to that fitted to the Hawker F20/27.
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I have to say that I find the gunsight and lack of trigger a puzzle, and there are similarities with the Tempest. I will offer a wild guess of a Boulton Paul Defiant. As I believe it to be single engined (primer pump lower right) fighter, without a trigger. Vintage? early war years.
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Old 25th Feb 2007, 21:57
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Surely the triggers are the two levers in the centre of the control yoke. Hence my stab at early thirties. I am certain it is not the Defiant. See What Cockpit I page 98 Post #1948 682al posted the Defiant then.
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Sorry, not Fury, and as Mel has already stated, the Defiant was done a while (it seems like years!) ago.

The spade grip is, however, from the Fury era but I think this type survived a while longer than the Hawker.
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