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Like others, I am convinced this is an Italian 3 motor.
Compare with the Savoia Marchetti S 79 Gobbo Maledetto and there are huge similarities.
I think this - so far unidentified aircraft - is the SM 81 'Pipistrello' (Bat) from which the S79 was developed. In the posted photo we can see curtains on the screen. There are references to this on one side of the SM 81 canopy. Nice idea actually!
However, I cannot find a photo of the SM 81 panel. Does anyone have one or know where one can be located?
Compare with the Savoia Marchetti S 79 Gobbo Maledetto and there are huge similarities.
I think this - so far unidentified aircraft - is the SM 81 'Pipistrello' (Bat) from which the S79 was developed. In the posted photo we can see curtains on the screen. There are references to this on one side of the SM 81 canopy. Nice idea actually!
However, I cannot find a photo of the SM 81 panel. Does anyone have one or know where one can be located?
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Bri's Challenge: Post 2541
I now have evidence to confirm the photograph that was the subject of Bri's Challenge at Post 2541 is not the Fairchild 91. www.seawings.co.uk now publish on their Walkround Gallery a photograph of the cockpit of the Fairchild 91 which is credited as an original Fairchild photograph :-
Yet on their Photo Gallery for this aircraft they still show the photograph Bri submitted.
Regarding what aircraft is the subject of the photograph published at Post 2541 I do not agree with you Lars that it could be the SM 81 'Pipistrello' the size of the cockpit windows do not tie in. I think it could be the SM87
as the location of the curtains seem to fit this window formation rather than that of the SM81.
Mel
Yet on their Photo Gallery for this aircraft they still show the photograph Bri submitted.
Regarding what aircraft is the subject of the photograph published at Post 2541 I do not agree with you Lars that it could be the SM 81 'Pipistrello' the size of the cockpit windows do not tie in. I think it could be the SM87
as the location of the curtains seem to fit this window formation rather than that of the SM81.
Mel
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You could well be right, Mel. There were only 4, I think, examples of the SM 87 built. Prototypes according to some sources but this panel looks too finished. I was also thinking the SM 75 - essentially the land version of the 87 - which was used in Spain which may be the connection Bri's source was making. Have checked both Hungarian and Italian sources without being able to confirm.
It would be nice to know for sure
It would be nice to know for sure
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As far as I can tell this was not a licensed-built aircraft and carried it's constructor's seial number it also carried passengers as well as the pilot.
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Woods:- Boeing? Model B? 
I think that is near enough. It is in fact the first Boeing B-1E Flying Boat. Later B-1Es had a single wheel control instead of the stick and suspended rudder pedals. The aircraft shown in the attached photograph is a Model 204 which was a redesignation of unbuilt B-1Es, after 5 B1-E were built, they were given a new model number to indicate they were a 1929 design rather than a direct development of the B-1 of 1919. The first flight of the B-1E was on the 4th March 1928.
You have control.
I think that is near enough. It is in fact the first Boeing B-1E Flying Boat. Later B-1Es had a single wheel control instead of the stick and suspended rudder pedals. The aircraft shown in the attached photograph is a Model 204 which was a redesignation of unbuilt B-1Es, after 5 B1-E were built, they were given a new model number to indicate they were a 1929 design rather than a direct development of the B-1 of 1919. The first flight of the B-1E was on the 4th March 1928.
You have control.