Caravelle
There is deffo a Caravelle at Colombus Ohio Airport. It is part of a museum there and if I remember rightly it was last used by a freight company.
I have a couple of good pictures of an Altair Caravelle at LGW with its nose sticking in the air whilst on the ground. The Gatwick Handling loaders had offloaded the fwd hold and as all the pas disembarked the a/c tipped up onto its tail. The Captain wanted to fire up the engines to blow ir down again!! Fortunately the fire brigade sent 6 of their heaviest blokes out to jump through the fwd door and redress the balance!
Isn't there an ex Hispania machine at Palma as well??
I have a couple of good pictures of an Altair Caravelle at LGW with its nose sticking in the air whilst on the ground. The Gatwick Handling loaders had offloaded the fwd hold and as all the pas disembarked the a/c tipped up onto its tail. The Captain wanted to fire up the engines to blow ir down again!! Fortunately the fire brigade sent 6 of their heaviest blokes out to jump through the fwd door and redress the balance!
Isn't there an ex Hispania machine at Palma as well??
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I think there was a variant of the Caravelle powered by P & W JT-8s.
Indian Airlines used to operate Caravelles and I recall a tragedy involving a Caravelle in 1975 or 1976 at Bombay.
Incidentally, just be topical, Air France lost a 747 to fire at Bombay in 1975. Fortunately, no fatalities, just a huge mess.
Indian Airlines used to operate Caravelles and I recall a tragedy involving a Caravelle in 1975 or 1976 at Bombay.
Incidentally, just be topical, Air France lost a 747 to fire at Bombay in 1975. Fortunately, no fatalities, just a huge mess.
Caravelle book
Passing this on purely for information, not advertising - I have no personal connection with the author or publisher. A 'google' on the author plus title should locate it for anyone interested.
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Caravelle - the complete story - by John Wegg
CARAVELLE - The Complete Story
Published to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the first flight of the Sud-Est Caravelle, this sumptuous book is a celebration not only of a classic airliner but also of the jet age!
The result of more than 30years research by the acknowledged specialist on the subject - both in France and overseas - this monumental work is the first complete account of the post-war development and 45-year operational career of the first aircraft to adopt the now universal rear-engined layout, and the first airliner to prove the turbojet over short- and medium-haul routes.
Illustrated by more than 900 photographs, most of which are in colour and previously unpublished, and 150 drawings, all aspects of the Caravelle’s life are covered thoroughly in nearly 30 chapters. Drawing on the archives of the French Aviation Authority for the first time, a full appreciation of the genesis of this revolutionary design can now be made, along with its evolution and influence on today’s European aircraft industry. The author’s own extensive contacts, documentation, and first hand experience reveal the story of an airliner in world-wide service, sometimes in remarkable roles.
Extensive and detailed appendices offer an unparalleled reference to techinal aspects, use by nearly 150 airlines and several air arms, and the history of each of the 282 Caravelle's produced, from first flight to retirement. Also included is a census of all surviving airframes.
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Caravelle - the complete story - by John Wegg
CARAVELLE - The Complete Story
Published to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the first flight of the Sud-Est Caravelle, this sumptuous book is a celebration not only of a classic airliner but also of the jet age!
The result of more than 30years research by the acknowledged specialist on the subject - both in France and overseas - this monumental work is the first complete account of the post-war development and 45-year operational career of the first aircraft to adopt the now universal rear-engined layout, and the first airliner to prove the turbojet over short- and medium-haul routes.
Illustrated by more than 900 photographs, most of which are in colour and previously unpublished, and 150 drawings, all aspects of the Caravelle’s life are covered thoroughly in nearly 30 chapters. Drawing on the archives of the French Aviation Authority for the first time, a full appreciation of the genesis of this revolutionary design can now be made, along with its evolution and influence on today’s European aircraft industry. The author’s own extensive contacts, documentation, and first hand experience reveal the story of an airliner in world-wide service, sometimes in remarkable roles.
Extensive and detailed appendices offer an unparalleled reference to techinal aspects, use by nearly 150 airlines and several air arms, and the history of each of the 282 Caravelle's produced, from first flight to retirement. Also included is a census of all surviving airframes.
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I think there was a variant of the Caravelle powered by P & W JT-8s.
Ah, nostalgia!
Catair, Altair, Aero Lloyd, SAM, Transavia, Transwede, LTU - do I recall a Spanish charter outfit? EAS, Sterling. Never mind the flag carriers... And as a spotty anorak I recall an American Caravelle trailing eastbound along Green 1 - N902MW? Something like that...
Last Caravelle I saw is an ex Sabena aircraft in the Brussels museum, hanging from the ceiling. Ah, Sobelair operated them after didn't they?
Just been discussing this in the pub: we think - without any reference to books - that the JT-8 Caravelle was the Super 12
There was a GE prototype as well but it didn't reach the production stage.
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Catair, Altair, Aero Lloyd, SAM, Transavia, Transwede, LTU - do I recall a Spanish charter outfit? EAS, Sterling. Never mind the flag carriers...
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Thanks for the unsolicited plug.
EGAC
Thanks for buying the book and kind words.
To answer the original query, the answer is, sadly, no, a Caravelle cannot be (legally) returned to the air because the type certificates were cancelled by the holder (Airbus) last December.
The one with Le Caravelle Club at Arlanda will be maintained in potentially airworthy condition.
That said, as far as I am aware, one Super Caravelle (JT8Ds) is still flying in the Congo, 41 years after its first flight.
Vive la Caravelle !
Thanks for the unsolicited plug.
EGAC
Thanks for buying the book and kind words.
To answer the original query, the answer is, sadly, no, a Caravelle cannot be (legally) returned to the air because the type certificates were cancelled by the holder (Airbus) last December.
The one with Le Caravelle Club at Arlanda will be maintained in potentially airworthy condition.
That said, as far as I am aware, one Super Caravelle (JT8Ds) is still flying in the Congo, 41 years after its first flight.
Vive la Caravelle !
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Yes, the Super Caravelle in the Congo is the last flying example.
Re the link provided by FBF, this Super Caravelle was indeed eventually bulldozed and buried in Mexico.
As mentioned in the book, there may have been another (ex-Sterling) that suffered the same fate.
Re the link provided by FBF, this Super Caravelle was indeed eventually bulldozed and buried in Mexico.
As mentioned in the book, there may have been another (ex-Sterling) that suffered the same fate.
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Correct, the former Gabon Express Caravelle 11 R did crash and burn (in August 2004).
However, the Super Caravelle is a different airframe and is still believed flying from Kinshasa; it was certainly active in February and March this year.
Correct, the former Gabon Express Caravelle 11 R did crash and burn (in August 2004).
However, the Super Caravelle is a different airframe and is still believed flying from Kinshasa; it was certainly active in February and March this year.
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I would very much welcome contact with any crews who flew (or fly!) Caravelles in Africa with the view to improve my historical record of ops; confidentiality assured.
Am I correct that the initial Caravelles did not have drop-down oxygen masks, and they were only introduced on the United Airlines ones because the FAA demanded them. Passengers were dependent on crew handing round portable supplies.
Did any European-certified ones get this later, or did it last until the end of the aircraft ?
What was their service ceiling ? And did they have any significant pressurisation incidents in their lives ?
Did any European-certified ones get this later, or did it last until the end of the aircraft ?
What was their service ceiling ? And did they have any significant pressurisation incidents in their lives ?