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gordonfvckingramsay 14th February 2014 23:34

Isn't Qantas already two airlines?

Jetstar and that benefactor we all call mainline.

Ertimus 14th February 2014 23:50

When you run out of ideas look in a history book. TAA sounds good everything worked in those days even though it was under a mountain of legislation and the Management earned peanuts.

Qantas 787 15th February 2014 03:27

Agree with Keg - the cost of duplicating positions due to the split in the business is never answered. I would love someone to ask senior management the question in a public forum so everyone can hear the answer.

The Big E 15th February 2014 04:04

[Emirates is looking to buy (yes, BUY) Jetstar.]

Why would they buy, when they have the where with all to just start up with a fleet of their choice, and then run them out?

Regards to ya all on 'ere, Big E.

gear up job 15th February 2014 05:35

[Emirates is looking to buy (yes, BUY) Jetstar.]
 
Looks like it's starting to happen.......

Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

airsupport 15th February 2014 06:36

As I have been predicting here for some time, on other threads, I still believe the ultimate plan is for an Emirates takeover of Qantas, getting closer and closer............. :uhoh:

Divided One 15th February 2014 06:58

Recap from Crikey May 2012
 
One might say Joyce is playing the Pollies this time. If you look at it he's lost shareholders, executives, staff, other airlines. Who's left? Canberra!
The death threat has moved from himself to the company. If canberra investigated like the NSW police, they may find nothing to act upon!!

Worth a read could have been written today.

Qantas splits, and spits out Joyce rivals in restructure | Plane Talking

V-Jet 15th February 2014 06:59

God in heaven.

Non-reference to Allah unintended.

Why wouldn't they give it away? The Australian taxpayer gave it to Jetstar for nothing, so it's theirs to give to EK. Makes perfect sense....

DUXNUTZ 15th February 2014 08:11


They will also enjoy a range of full-service features such as food and beverage options and the same luggage allowance they would on Emirates.
So kinda like QF!

SeldomFixit 15th February 2014 10:50

To every Soldier, Sailor, Airman and woman who fought and died for this Country. For every parent who suffered a life of loss or hardship, I apologise.
That successive Governments, black, white or brindle, have put a huge for sale sign on this country, disgusts me.
Lest We Forget :(

V-Jet 15th February 2014 22:11

I am absolutely disgusted, appalled etc etc. but the Govt. is in a difficult position. ASIC is a waste of space and that is a separate issue, but it is NOT (nor should it be) the governments job to 'interfere' with business. The boards job is to ensure the business is being run properly. Without a thorough understanding of the Aviation business (and I mean thorough, as in more thorough than most upper management staff at QF) you would simply believe the unending lies, mistruths and blame changing that emanates from 'Kool Aid' Coward St. As a professional politician, or even a lucky but incompetent business person like Clive, you either wouldn't care (Clive) or simply find it preposterous that people paid millions by a company to run it would be deliberately asset stripping on the sly. Also, these lovely people are constantly assuring you everything is fine, on track to outperform the latest Glorious Five Year Plan and you also get to use the beautiful lounges that have just been built at great expense - what could possibly be untoward? All the staff you meet are very happy, it quite possibly is (as you have been assured by even proven leaders like Cosgrove) just those obstreperous overpaid staff that are ruining progress. If your house is broken into, you do not sue the police or the government for allowing it to happen, but you prosecute the burglar. Maybe BGA got the job specifically because of his stature? He is perfect cat-burglar size, hard to spot and shifty!

Do not think I agree with the above, but I can understand how the lies and theft is being perpetrated.

woollcott 15th February 2014 23:35

Peter Doble as head of Airworthiness?

Now I do have to laugh at that - those in the know will be aware of certain incidents in recent times........

Romulus 5th March 2014 23:44


Originally Posted by Fedsec
Also some documents fell into our hands recently that seem to maybe have turned this into something a little more than a rumour. I will try and post some of them here.

Seems the document has been removed, but didn't Matt Lee figure quite prominently in the new plans?

Cost Index 6th March 2014 07:14

The cost to employees health and the toxic culture which exists at QF is a disaster. Ultimately though, these pawns are just being moved around whilst a bigger picture is in play.

So in regards to ALAEA Fed Sec's first post on what splitting the business means, I would also like to stimulate discussion on the same topic but ask what effect the various possible outcomes of this would mean for the share price? Discuss..

Ida down 6th March 2014 08:28

Once bitten, is that JQ domestic, and longhaul?

ALAEA Fed Sec 6th March 2014 09:47

Looks like the sackings of today are seeing them reverse some of this separation madness. We were hearing there were massive internal debates about the cost to run on two AOCs, doubling up on maintenance departments etc....

fruitloop 7th March 2014 00:54

Is that a split into 2 or 3 ??

XPT 7th March 2014 05:38

why on earth would that mean doubling maintenance departments ?

It seems most of the maintenance is going offshore anway.

XPT 7th March 2014 05:39

the really big question really is
 
what will happen to QF INT once split ? Wither & die fast ?

Probably, with no redundancy payments either.

ratpoison 7th March 2014 05:52


To every Soldier, Sailor, Airman and woman who fought and died for this Country. For every parent who suffered a life of loss or hardship, I apologise.
That successive Governments, black, white or brindle, have put a huge for sale sign on this country, disgusts me.
Lest We Forget
It's Friday arvo and I'm buying you a drink :D:D
Bloody well said:p


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