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pigdriver 28th February 2009 02:08

Just spoke to a mate who has been offered a contract with J*NZ. Capt is apparently NZ$130, F/O 65000. Hours are for 6o or 65 I think, and then an flying allowance of 120 per hour. 8 days off, 5 weeks leave and some kiwi super???? ( whatever that is....).Most months are around 75-80 hours, of which they are a mix of domestic and tasman runs.
Not sure how this compares to Pac Blue or Jitconnect??? etc. I think his start date (if he takes it??!!) is around june/july....

60 & below 28th February 2009 02:56

Kiwi Super 1-2%
As of next year you will have to put in what the company puts in,
If you dont add to it the company doesent either.
:ok:Not so Super

blow.n.gasket 28th February 2009 08:52

Choice Bro!:}

Fruet Mich 2nd March 2009 09:16

Never mind comparing these salaries to Jitconnect or PB, how about to Mt Cook or Air Nelson. It's an absolute insult! Anyone who takes this job is an absolute porn of the industry. Lets keep dragging our own industry down then we can all complain once we're all earning baggage loaders salaries.

Jetstar management are either ignorant or have very low IQ's?

Best of luck getting Visa's for the mexicans you plan to imigrate to NZ to fly these things. Better terms and conditions on a turbo props. What a joke!!

framer 2nd March 2009 09:46


Anyone who takes this job is an absolute porn of the industry.
:D That is very clever!...get it...jetstar....pornstar...:D

puma pants 2nd March 2009 10:24

A race to the bottom!!

pointyendforward 2nd March 2009 21:13

Puma, are they going to try and con you jokers to sign the new contract too? :-)

Muff Hunter 3rd March 2009 05:53

more info.....

day off pay flat rate $250 Capt and FO

no extra cash for working on annual leave

must extend flights to complete duties

8 days off per month

5 weeks leave

1% super

and this is the winner....a bonus of around $10000 for Capt and $6000 for FO's to be paid at the "company's discretion"

and there are many more disgusting clauses in the contract..

any one who accpets this crap deserves what they get...:yuk::yuk:

horserun 3rd March 2009 07:43

W**kers!!!!!

I have heard that the wheels are coming off their evil plan (thank God!)
No one in Jetstar is prepared to come across for the !!!!! they are offering, as they had hoped.

myturn 3rd March 2009 07:51

Plenty of guys out there just waiting on start dates - J* will get this across the line no probs. You are kidding yourself if you think otherwise. Not saying its right just saying its happening.:ugh:

Flava Saver 3rd March 2009 08:09

Yes, word is most guys are knocking this back. They are going back to the drawing board to re-hash, so anyone thinking of accepting, i'd reconsider. Anyone willing to accept this, well, more fool you. :rolleyes:

ZK-NSN 3rd March 2009 09:36

Hate to think what the ground staff and FA's will get then. Im sick to death of seeing that toolbag hughesy on the adverts. "All our aircraft have comfy leather seats" woo-f@#kin-hooo, so do most 172's.

Budget operators have been good to an extent because they have created jobs for pilots, but this time their just taking the piss.

Led Zeppelin 3rd March 2009 09:49

NSN

Love your last post - trouble is, your bloody right mate. Conditions are an absolute f@cking insult.:mad:

Black Box 3rd March 2009 10:33

Can always get a night job at a bar.

All Day Every Day Low Wages:=:=

'holic 3rd March 2009 19:18

oh, the irony

rockarpee 3rd March 2009 22:00

Holic, the problem is that these posters don't see it, too funny:D

Captain Sherm 3rd March 2009 22:22

When Sherm was a younger pilot, if you were approaching 28 and hadn't yet been hired by a "major"....you were dead meat.

The then majors, AN Group, EWA, TN and Qantas had everything stitched up. Rigid seniority, all AFAP members, common terms and conditions. And as for cheap fares to encourage market growth......hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Time to command for the young Sherm was 15 years.

The world has changed and there are thousands more jobs than ever and waiting for command nowhere near such a misery. Many options. Some entry level, some wonderful, some sideways, some doomed, some a mistake, some much better than imagined, many overseas on shiny machines not on the Australian register.

Those who don't want the NZ jobs should simply not take them. End of story.

As an aside: I had a friend who once knocked back seniority number 12 at Fedex...."looked dodgy" (or some similar yank expression). So be it. Some win, some lose, smart guys learn and move on.

pigdriver 3rd March 2009 22:48

By the way, have heard they have had no dramas at all getting the required numbers. Guys from overseas, a few jetstar oz guys, as well as plenty of kiwis.......

aulglarse 3rd March 2009 23:10

From what I hear these conditions for AKL Command are approx 10k more than a current JQ F/O conditions at the moment-this is pathetic. Naturally in this industry the attraction of a job on a new shiny jet (A320/B787) may succumb to some.

For those considering this contract please consider joining a union first.

propaganda 4th March 2009 01:08

The race is on to see who's T&C's reach the bottom first. Those airlines who exploit their primary asset must understand if you pay peanuts you get monkeys. AKL Zoo's primates may not want to pay $181.50 AUD for the Psychometric assessment, but some monkey will;).


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