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E.P. 15th Dec 2002 22:44

Vb Wants Ya Baby!!
 
VB is proposing to increase its fleet by four A/C EACH MONTH, next year.

My very young disciple has 1203 hrs total and a start date.

(Providing she passes her final ATPL exam.)

She will probably be a Checkie by Easter!

Mr Wright 15th Dec 2002 23:12

What's wrong with 1200 or so hours. Q requires less than half of that!!!!

E.P. 15th Dec 2002 23:36

Karma down.
 
This was meant to be a positive post, not a spear chuck.

This is a giggle though. During the interview she was asked

about a certain historical "Aviation event" and her interest in

aviation at that time.

She respectively advised that she was just 8 yrs old at the

time!!!

Gnadenburg 16th Dec 2002 02:23

Another masterstroke by Virgin management.

The lass is 22yo and will no doubt repay Virgin as a low maintenance employee who would never dream of creating industrial trouble.

With her 69K she will repay her endorsement in year one, then buy a nice little flat in BNE and a WRX ( just like all the bubble gum blondes on Chapel St).

At 23 she will get a 40k a year payrise and become part of the VB publicity machine- youngest female airline Captain in Australia. Can see the billboards and Women's Weekly articles now. The Virgin Blue publicity machine just got itself another 500k of free advertising and publicity.

A masterstroke again by VB!

And what of the risks? Inexperienced pilots and rapid growth. The risk was taken in 89 and a benign air environment saved the day.

On risk management VB may well do what QF has done. 250 below 5000, 210 by 10. On a STAR in Australia, nobody can get in trouble at those speeds!

Skill and experience is being taken out of airline flying for a very good reason.

A genuine good luck to the young lady. I feel we will all come to know her in the years to come. Courtesy of the VB publicity machine.

And my remark about WRX just a dig at all my airline pilot mates who possess this little run about that only looks any good strapped to a young blonde!

E.P. 16th Dec 2002 03:12

Actually she turns 21 on Dec. 27.

Just had a PVT MSG. from another young female aviator with

almost the same experience, also with a start date.

Looks like VB will have TWO of the youngest female airline

Captains not only here, but possibly in the world.

However, please do not agree to the FHM magazine shoot!! It

would only prove a malediction.

Sperm Bank 16th Dec 2002 04:07

Good luck to the both of them. I do think however that you may be a little off the mark in regard to when they get their commands. They need 5000 hours as far as I know and then will get in line behind the 180 f/o's in front of them, all of whom have over 1200 hours. Perhaps 3 to 5 years they might be looking good. Still not too bad having a command on a 737 at 25 is it?

Gnadenburg 16th Dec 2002 04:13

Sperm Bank

Reference your remark about the 180 F/Os in front of them, do you have seniority?

Otherwise their rapid promotion, with all that publicity, may be for the general good of the company.

Boeing Belly 16th Dec 2002 04:16

Mr Wright, 1200 hours would get you a job as a Second Officer in Qantas. A position that you would fill for perhaps 3-5 years. In that time you would be exposed to many different, very experienced pilots. You would also do many re-newels in the sim as well as revals etc. All of this builds on your "all round" experience so that when you are promoted to the front seat there is a good chance that you will do a competant job.

In respect of this young girl, she is I'm sure a lovely young lady and may even have a natural aptitude for the job. But I'm sorry to say she will probably end up being a burden to the Captain. A Captain has the right to expect that his/her First Officer is up to the job. He/she shouldn't have to carry the load on every leg. I have many friends who have operated with VERY in-experienced F/Os in Europe and more recently in a Regional Airline based in Singapore. Some of the stories are what nightmares are made of!!!

bitter balance 16th Dec 2002 04:51

Boeing Belly, nothing like making a sweeping generalisation on the abilities of someone you have never met, backgrounded or flown with. There are many, many cases where people of her background have cut it. It is (or at least was) de rigeur in Europe for low time FOs to fly in the RHS.

If she passes the endorsement and subsequent checks she belongs there.

stick_&_rudder 16th Dec 2002 05:35

Have to agree with Gnadenburg! Believe it's more of a publicity stunt, rather than a genuine want for that particular applicant.

Considering there has been numerous mention on similar threads of people with a lot more experience/skills applying and not even getting a look at.

I personally believe that seeing a bit of experience "up the front" inspires confidence in the travelling public. I know I feel safe when I see the Captain's hair is greying a little.

E.P. 16th Dec 2002 05:45

It is all perspective. How many of you had 1200 hrs when you

were 20? Age vs Experience, she is quite experienced.

Project ahead, at 900hrs a year she will have 10,000hrs at 30yrs

and almost 20,000hrs at 40yrs of age!!

In any event I believe a stellar and rapid career is planned for

both these young ladies. I can already see Sir Dick grinning at

the very thought of 6 young blondes (2 up front, 4 in rear) ALL

UNDER 23YRS, doing the inaugural flight into some exotic locale!!

It is classic Sir Dick!!

strewth 16th Dec 2002 05:51


personally believe that seeing a bit of experience "up the front" inspires confidence in the travelling public. I know I feel safe when I see the Captain's hair is greying a little.
A as passenger numerous times over the last 5 years with Qantas, Virgin Blue and Ansett, I have never EVER seen the flight crew. You might feel safe with a grey haired old captain up front, but most people don't even look. So whats the difference!?!?!??!

BTW, congrats to those that got in, and good luck for what looks like a long and fulfilling career. I hope to join you soon!

Tagneah 16th Dec 2002 06:03

Go for it Girls. Good on ya!

On the subject of if it is a publicity stunt, I dont think the whole female issues rates a mention. Im sure there are blokes in the DJ camp who got in with less than 1200. So, as was said above, if you get a tick in all the right boxes then you have right to be there. If it is a stunt then its not like it hasn't been done before. I recall a story of a 19yo Female S/O in QF who was sent to pick up a new 767 sixth months after completing her cadetship.

Nice work if you can get it!

(and I just got it - seeya online girls!!!!):D :D

stick_&_rudder 16th Dec 2002 06:12

Strewth

Up until the tragedy of late last year, anyone with an interest in aviation was encouraged to take a look up front, have a chat and if you were lucky, ride in the jump seat for landing.

I am surprised that as a passenger over the last 5 years, you have not taken advantage of this opportunity, maybe if you took more of an interest you would be joining them sooner!

one ball 16th Dec 2002 07:18


This is a giggle though. She respectively advised that she was just 8 yrs old at the time!!!
Oh how cute, EP, how CUTE.....

Beech Boy 16th Dec 2002 07:20

Wake up and smell the roses!!

There is an awful lot of work to complete before you get a command- on anything!!

Namely:
Opportunity,
Experience,
Proven Capability, and
Then you have to keep proving it.
Grey hair does not really fit into any of the categories.
If you are doing it well enough, for long enough, you will get there.

Seniority, what was that again???

The roses that you might be smelling could be the ones you take to the cockpit one day - as a token of your professional respect of course. With the little card attached noting the beige WRX goes just as well as the puce.
;)

Karunch 16th Dec 2002 07:44

Gnadenburg- the Wrx was ok when you borrowed mine!. Girls car, I think not.

Life as a journey 16th Dec 2002 08:39

Excellent news EP. Another good luck story.

Bummer about the grumpy-bums who just puke any time they hear, read or see happiness, good timing or just plain good vibes.

Go hard EP-girl.

Go hard VB.

high talker 16th Dec 2002 08:54

Just wondering if these lovely ladies meet all the requirements for VB and had 500 hours twin etc etc.

All the best to them, and the others who make it.

Farknel 16th Dec 2002 10:58

....... Meanwhile, if you are old enough to be the father of one of these future "God's Gifts to Aviation", with 6 or 7 times their experience - on relevant aircraft types - then VB don't want to know about you!

I wonder if I invested in a bit of make-up, a blonde wig, and a tight mini skirt, would it manage to attract the attention of Sir RB?
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:


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