QF mishap YPPH 03/03/24
 

According to Ch 7 news this morning 2 QF737’s have clipped wings pulling into the gate at YPPH.

Might grab some popcorn and see what facts ” come to light as the day wears on…..

https://www.9news.com.au/national/qa...7-802d7334d83b

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I hope the crews/s are being looked after properly at a stressful time. Not strikebreaking airframes were they?

Interesting point, I was thinking how arriving at a marked bay would end like this, unless they are operating from non standard bays designed for smaller aircraft, say for FIFO... Seems like they had both come in from interstate, so not FIFO arrivals. That's not even close to separation, a good 5 meters from where it should pass. Anyway, nothing to see here, PR activated, rug lifted, broom sweeping...

What were the illegally outsourced ground staff doing? If they were paying attention surely they would have noticed the aircraft turning onto the wrong line and either changed the NIGS to a STOP or simply walked forwards waving their hands to indicate that the crew needs to stop.

No doubt the ATSB will be all over it and we'll see a final report several years from now, with recommendations to prevent another occurrence. :ok:

Those are the sorts of unrealised costs that the board and shareholders just don’t understand.

The cheapest option is never the cheapest option.

Now you’re looking at significant costs for:
1. Paying for Boeing to produce two repair schedules
2. Hundreds of thousands of dollars for engineers and parts to repair
3. Aircraft down-time for repairs (perhaps four aircraft weeks)
4. Subsequent increase in insurance premiums

Were these airframes brought in to cover NAA work? I expect the cost of this damage will be greater than the cost of just paying the NAA pilots what they deserve for the next 12 months.

It looks like QF939 from Brisbane had arrived at gate 19, and then a short while later QF857 from Canberra has arrived and headed for gate 18. Doubtless there will be a focus on the path QF857 has taken to the gate; a matter for those better qualified.

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Bay 18 verses Bay18A was it? it's nearly got me several times at night. Thanks "Perth airport" for the setup on a threat that should have been addressed years ago! sorry fellas I feel for you.

NIGS active? On the wrong bay?

+1. Those lines can be hard to see at night, particularly in light drizzle. A bit late now but hopefully it has previously been reported to the SMS so the interested parties can’t claim ignorance and reflexively blame the crew.

Yep. If it was going to happen, it was going to happen on 18. 2 different NIGS almost right next to each other, and lines that are very difficult to see. Hopefully there isn't too much damage, to aircraft anyway, I'd say the ego will suffer.

It's also a bay that mainline 737's hardly use in normal circumstances, 787 and A330 do, but the 737, hardly ever.

I doubt that they'd both be on together and the PIC would have to choose, and it was dark. And I very much doubt that 857, having been allocated bay 18 (I hope), would then choose to pick up the dotted Bay 18 line, without NIGS, and drive all the way to clock the jet on bay 19. Now, if the 18A NIGS was on and you were approaching the guidance from the south (so not having even got to the "18" on the ground)... Can't find it now but in the old days we weren't allowed onto the bay without a marshaller or NIGS; "Holding short of bay XX" was a not uncommon refrain.

With company policy that you can’t turn off the taxiway onto the gate without NIGs or marshalling, you’d have to assume the wrong nigs were activated or they were marshalled onto the wrong line.

Feel for the crew.

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Odd comment considering receipt and dispatch of aircraft (other than the 787s) are still done by QF engineers.

So they parked on 18A instead of 18?

So I guess the ground staff genius' activated the 18A NIGS for them, with a 73' parked on 19.
The guys wouldn't have come in with no NIGS
Sounds like a setup

Noting the potential issue with the granularity of the ADS-B data, it appears that QF857 came to a stop for at least a minute, perhaps a bit longer, before starting to turn in towards the gate. Hopefully someone has ensured that the CVR is preserved this time.