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TwoFiftyBelowTen 13th Feb 2024 11:51

Air China diversion this evening
 
CCA174 SYD-PEK B777 from west of TSV (north-east of Cloncurry) observed to have turned towards CNS for a while now looks like it’s heading to ADL
….. nope, now heading west

BuzzBox 13th Feb 2024 12:13

WTF??

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....18b83d052.jpeg


sunnySA 13th Feb 2024 12:36


Originally Posted by TwoFiftyBelowTen (Post 11596195)
CCA174 SYD-PEK B777 from west of TSV (north-east of Cloncurry) observed to have turned towards CNS for a while now looks like it’s heading to ADL
….. nope, now heading west

May I suggest a weather diversion, zigged when they should've zagged.

KAPAC 13th Feb 2024 13:13

Think of a number , double it and go . Then go again even further. That’s my technique. Good luck .

framer 13th Feb 2024 18:49


Think of a number , double it and go
That’s my technique as well!

Switchbait 13th Feb 2024 19:37

“Strengthen the observation of the weather radar. Be safety!”

DirectAnywhere 13th Feb 2024 20:16


Originally Posted by BuzzBox (Post 11596215)

Fkn lol. If they were flying under some carriers’ fuel policies, they would have run out of fuel near Manila after that effort.

I’ve seen Chinese carriers do some weird s$&t around convective weather, including flying straight through the middle of it at night, or going 90 degrees around stuff that wasn’t actually there when you looked out the window.

But yeah, that’s awesomely incompetent. Couldn’t pay me enough to sit down the back of one of those things.

TwoFiftyBelowTen 13th Feb 2024 20:26


Originally Posted by sunnySA (Post 11596233)
May I suggest a weather diversion, zigged when they should've zagged.

No other traffic in that area was making weather deviations, I don’t think that was it.
Maybe assessing a technical issue and keeping diversion options open

VHOED191006 13th Feb 2024 21:20


Originally Posted by TwoFiftyBelowTen (Post 11596512)
No other traffic in that area was making weather deviations, I don’t think that was it.
Maybe assessing a technical issue and keeping diversion options open

Well I would be steering well clear of any weather cell if something like that was happening to me lol

scavengepump 13th Feb 2024 22:04

Nope it was due weather. Heard the clowns on the radio.

morno 13th Feb 2024 22:06


Originally Posted by TwoFiftyBelowTen (Post 11596512)
No other traffic in that area was making weather deviations, I don’t think that was it.
Maybe assessing a technical issue and keeping diversion options open

I heard they had requested 200 miles off track due to weather, so it’s just pure incompetence.

BuzzBox 13th Feb 2024 22:21


Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere (Post 11596506)
I’ve seen Chinese carriers do some weird s$&t around convective weather, including flying straight through the middle of it at night, or going 90 degrees around stuff that wasn’t actually there when you looked out the window.

Yup. I once followed a Chinese carrier into SYD from Asia. Approaching the Australian mainland, with ZERO weather (easily determined by simply looking out the :mad: window), the Chinese aircraft ahead requested a weather diversion and then kept diverting further and further left of track. They could only have been avoiding the coastline. I also saw one of 'em fly right through the upper part of a large Cb near Hainan Island. We were flying the opposite direction and, having diverted around said Cb, had a very clear view as they flew right through it. :ugh:

TwoFiftyBelowTen 13th Feb 2024 23:00

What also interested me was that it was at the same level as an Emirates A380, converging at the same level.. while deviating, and lateral course was an unknown?
Seems that the level change F340 to F330
was very last-minute

DirectAnywhere 13th Feb 2024 23:58

Is there a way to filter that flightaware display by time and allowing multiple aircraft to be displayed, to show what other aircraft were doing in the area at the time?

Would be interesting to see.

VHOED191006 14th Feb 2024 00:04


Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere (Post 11596637)
Is there a way to filter that flightaware display by time and allowing multiple aircraft to be displayed, to show what other aircraft were doing in the area at the time?

Would be interesting to see.

What other aircraft were doing at time:
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....cb635a0330.png


What happened in the end:
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b36f139b7f.png


One very good way to get rid of all of your reserves....

Going Nowhere 14th Feb 2024 00:11


Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere (Post 11596637)
Is there a way to filter that flightaware display by time and allowing multiple aircraft to be displayed, to show what other aircraft were doing in the area at the time?

Would be interesting to see.

Not sure if this will work but if you use FlightRadar24’s playback feature, you can watch it all unfold.

https://www.flightradar24.com/2024-0...22.62,139.47/6

Playback from 13-Feb 1140UTC.

C441 14th Feb 2024 00:39

I wonder how that would have worked out in TIBA……..

Hopefully they'd have been the only ones there.

KRviator 14th Feb 2024 00:54

Good work with the replay. :ok: Would've made interesting reading if something did happen downroute, like that Singapore flight that peeled off to Indonesia last year.

DirectAnywhere 14th Feb 2024 01:54


Originally Posted by Going Nowhere (Post 11596644)
Not sure if this will work but if you use FlightRadar24’s playback feature, you can watch it all unfold.

https://www.flightradar24.com/2024-0...22.62,139.47/6

Playback from 13-Feb 1140UTC.

thanks. Very interesting. Watching JQ674 it’s apparent that’s a pretty major Fk up from the Air China guys. Some of their compatriots didn’t even deviate off track. 😂


Just imagine you’re the captain and you come back off your break to see you’ve lost half an hour and four tonnes of fuel.

Window heat 14th Feb 2024 01:55

Is Geoff Dot flying for them now? 😉


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