Will This Stir Up The Pot Down There ?
 

This is a reverse of the "Aussies can work for US regionals" thing but I'm curious how this effort will be received (I'd guess not favorably) Down There:

https://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/18028.html

More than what I was earning as a 19 year captain at Virgin Australia............

So this doesn't bother you when Aussie pilots are looking for work ?:

"Subclass 482 working visas have been secured for a once-in-a-lifetime chance to move to Australia and there is a path to permanent residency and citizenship after two years of service."

Hmm, $100k AUD for a Dash-8, that's pitiful, hopefully they don't include super contributions in that or it would be criminally low. Rex pays significantly more for SAAB drivers. Anyone with those hours would be a shoe in at any of the airlines with a choice of lifestyle, 6 weeks leave, from 4 (12) days off more a roster.

Considering overseas pilots can just apply straight to Qantas group, VA or Rex, why would you settle for such poor offerings.

It says..$100000 after tax.

$100,000 after tax, you did read that part?

Sorry did miss the after tax part. That's still $140k before tax, assuming they are paying the same tax as an Australian. Which is what a first year DEC SAAB captain will earn after allowances, and much more with callouts and other benefits. Really depends what's in the package after that. So I would still say that even after tax it's not a great lure.

Oops sorry, I didnt see that bit. Apologies.

Based on a comparison with what is on offer in the US, I doubt that there will be too many takers.

To put it another way $140k is basically what QLink Dash 8 and Rex SAAB pilots are on first year, however that is the minimum they would earn. Each year the QF/Rex will get annual rises, and year of service increases, so will leave that $140k figure in the dust in just a few years. Add to that call out payments that significantly increase your earnings, leave loading, LoL insurance, profit share and share gifts etc etc your earning potential is significantly higher, some could earn in excess of $200k per year, become a trainer or checker and that figure goes up significantly again. Unless of course there is something else hidden in that package that would add on significantly more over the term of the contract that is.

And that would be the most significant point, with those hours in the US you could pick and choose jobs over there ATM.

Not on a dollar for dollar
However for someone looking to get citizenship in Oz for whatever reason, this would be a good opportunity, do a couple of years out west then move on

If you want to live in Australia that bad apply to QF group or Rex. All hiring like mad on proper EBAs with secure work and a choice of baseings down the track. Again I would carefully look at the fine print on that contract.

Proper EBAs and Rex? It's so good that the FO wage is just above minimum wage! Good luck surviving in a capital city

The conversation is about a DEC, which at Rex would be starting at $140k pa for a year 1 with basic allowances.

Year 1 FO would start around $90-$95k now with basic allowances. Although at the moment you could probably add significantly more with casual work. By basic allowance I mean 8 RDO rosters, average DTA, leave loading etc..., there is also profit share and share gift above that. All increasing by service years and assumed 4% pa for at least the next few years. Its not the best offer, but its definitely not minimum wage. If you agree to $140 k today with no CPI adjustments you will be on less than a Rex FO in a few years time, inflation is not going to abate anytime soon.

bafanguy, hardly, the unions are weak in Australia. Nothing like the US.

The biggest problem in the US is competition and constant chapter 11s forcing wage stagnation. Right now its the opposite. USA the unions are strong, but competition is rife, so you can get so far and then your company gets white anted. In Australia the libs have made unions seem like evil communists that are bad for everything, when they are the only method for workers to get what they need/want.

And if you don't think USA pilot unions are not strong, look up things like scope clauses. In Australia QF can just buy subsidiaries and play them off against each other, in the US the union forces the company to sign non competitive deals so that the smaller operators can't white ant the bigger ones T&Cs. Ie small commuters like Comair were restricted to RJs and less than 74 seats so that they can't be used as cheap labor on larger aircraft. In fact the union clauses were so strong aircraft were designed specifically to fill those roles, hence the 70 seat TPs and RJs.

SAAB Captain Year 1 is $98449.

Yep plus 13% for rdo buyback and $30k in dta, added leave loading and other extras. As I said it really depends on what extra they add to that deal. As the basic rex additions add up to $140k before you do much extra. Then on top of that each year you will get cpi adjustments and years of service increments. So in a few years you will be way better off.

To explain the RDO situation the latest EBA had them gain two days off for 10 in total, but the company can buy them back at 1% per roster pre assigned. As you might imagine it might be a while before any crew see the 10 days as actual rosters. So with 13 roster periods a year you will see a 13% increase in base, I say base as super contributions are added on top of that.

With the add just focusing on a salary with 6 weeks leave it makes me think there is no more to the contract, no significant allowances etc. Which then seems dud when compared to the competition.

Again not saying the Rex deal is something awesome, just that on balance its offering better for smaller aircraft.

The people they will get are not welcome to the US under that visa system. For those people it'll be a great lure.

If you're looking to reel in a rant I can probably help you out.