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Foxxster 18th Jan 2023 02:57

QF144 Auckland to Sydney engine out
 
Just reported, about 30 minutes out from Sydney. Reported one engine out. Currently at 20,000 feet at about 370 knots.

SITTINGBULL 18th Jan 2023 03:21

QF's new Single Engine Taxi procedure is intense :E

Stationair8 18th Jan 2023 03:22

No, carbon offset programme in action.

Safest airline in 2023.

VHOED191006 18th Jan 2023 03:31

New poster, long time lurker, not affiliated with the media at all (am watching the dramatization of this flight :ugh:). However, I curious to know as to whether or not it is SOP there to declare a mayday if you lose an engine during ETOPS ops?

Advance 18th Jan 2023 03:35

QAL 34L YSSY 0426, now on the gate

ControlLock 18th Jan 2023 03:47

From track log details, appears to have failed shortly after TOC with a long gradual drift down all the way across the Tasman into YSSY.

RodH 18th Jan 2023 03:51

Fear not fellow aviation enthusiasts!
Our Aviation Expert, "GT", will soon tell us exactly what happened and why.
I can hardly wait to read his words of wisdom.

Nuasea 18th Jan 2023 04:01

Engine out
 
There was a time when diverting to the nearest airfield was considered the thing to do.

SHVC 18th Jan 2023 04:27

Maybe they were out of NZ arrival cards and their Aus border force was already filled out.

Kiwiconehead 18th Jan 2023 04:38


Originally Posted by ControlLock (Post 11368587)
From track log details, appears to have failed shortly after TOC with a long gradual drift down all the way across the Tasman into YSSY.

Yeah nah

morno 18th Jan 2023 04:39


Originally Posted by ControlLock (Post 11368587)
From track log details, appears to have failed shortly after TOC with a long gradual drift down all the way across the Tasman into YSSY.

Hmmm, I highly doubt that, because you can’t exactly go EDTO with an engine failure…

TimmyTee 18th Jan 2023 05:06


Originally Posted by morno (Post 11368611)
Hmmm, I highly doubt that, because you are not meant to go EDTO with an engine failure…

I’m pretty sure you can if you really want to

Capn Bloggs 18th Jan 2023 05:12


Originally Posted by ControlLock
From track log details, appears to have failed shortly after TOC with a long gradual drift down all the way across the Tasman into YSSY.

Show us your data to verify, or do you seriously think the line between the end of the ADS-B return from NZ and the start of the AUS ADS-B return is what the aeroplane did?

pct085 18th Jan 2023 05:21

"Nearest" - you need to be careful working that one out....
 

Originally Posted by Nuasea (Post 11368591)
There was a time when diverting to the nearest airfield was considered the thing to do.

If this engine out occcured at cruise, don't you need to factor in the costs of turning around to distance travelled and time in the air? An engine out during cruise is at speed so I imagine you can't just "turn around". I anticipate the "nearest airfield" in distance at the moment of failure may not be the "nearest airfield" in travel distance or time in the air. It may well be that SYD was the "nearest".

Angle of Attack 18th Jan 2023 05:21

The engine failure didn’t occur TOC, it was pretty much half way across so close to the CP.

stillcallozhome 18th Jan 2023 05:27


Originally Posted by tornspar (Post 11368608)
Why is an engine failure a mayday ?QF sop?

Ah - the good old mayday vs pan debate. Go Austranauts!!!

Ascend Charlie 18th Jan 2023 05:27

I see that Ch 7 is now favouring Discrepancy to GT for Expert Opinion.

aussieflyboy 18th Jan 2023 05:41


Originally Posted by stillcallozhome (Post 11368623)
Ah - the good old mayday vs pan debate. Go Austranauts!!!

Its not a debate in Aus mate. Do you want fire trucks and ambos from all over town at the airport or do you just want the airport fire trucks.

SandyPalms 18th Jan 2023 05:49

Downgraded to PAN. These people are so incredibly lucky, as the captain was a cadet, presumably it could only have been information passed onto the aircraft by an ex GA guy that saved the day. Phew! (Sarcasm) I hope I never have to see one for real.

Ollie Onion 18th Jan 2023 05:55

I think a Mayday is appropriate in 3rd world ATC environments, OZ certainly qualifies as that.


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