4 Corners this Monday
 

This will be an interesting view, hopefully it will hasten the end of one of the greatest acts of corporate terrorism we’ve ever seen.

https://www.abc.net.au/4corners/flig...os-at/14039420

Is this show still on!

4 Corners’ Stephen Long crashed the presser last week, 30.30 onwards.

Love the old ‘we will do an interview with you’, (cough cough with terms and conditions attached)….reporter wasn’t having a bar of it.

“Virgin is just as bad as us”

Says it all doesn’t it. I also imagine there are thousands of staff who would love to be interviewed by 4 corners about their workplace.

deflected for 5 minutes then got a Dorothy Dixer from Robyn Ironside to bail him out.

don’t you love when asked why equal jobs equal pay, he immediately jumped to a dash8 pilot vs widebody..

Probably not:

Since reporting annual results last Thursday, the stock has gained nearly 16%. With an enterprise value set at 4.1 times its forecast earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortization over the coming 12 months, Qantas is now sitting on a higher multiple than the average 3.6 times in the 10 years before Covid-19 struck.Those who bought close to the bottom at the end of March 2020 have enjoyed a 65% capital gain, and last week were given a A$400 million share buyback, too. If the uptake of apology vouchers is much below 60%, Qantas will end up giving a bigger thank you to equity investors than passengers.

This is only to be expected. Customers hate businesses with excessive market share, knowing how little choice they have to seek alternatives. For the same reasons, shareholders love them. So long as that situation prevails, Joyce’s job will be safe.

Passengers Hate Qantas. Shareholders Aren’t Bothered

I wouldn’t expect any changes as a result of Monday night’s program. Despite all the negative press the company has copped in the last months the share price has matched the ASX 200, and then taken off with a 16% increase since results day. Some analysts see the share price hitting $6.80, a 30% increase.

Investors were happy with the FY results, the board won’t budge unless the investors aren’t happy, so no changes of CEO anytime soon.

Another article highlighting the strong performance of the company and the relatively rosy outlook:

Why did the Qantas share price rocket 17% in August?

While Qantas maintains its world class system of political patronage, starting with the Chairman’s lounges, it’s parasitic economic stranglehold on the Australian economy will continue.

‘’If you are a major shareholder, what’s not to like?

Master of deflection. When asked about the Govt policy of same job, same pay, he says why should we pay a Dash 8 pilot the same as an A380, it's the same job right. This man is disingenuous at best, but I could think of other descriptors. Even the man or woman in the street when shown the aircraft side by side and asked who would get paid more to fly it would get the correct answer 99.9 percent of the time. He is just insulting the intelligence of the press and the wider populace.

It clearly indicates just how out of touch he is with what his employees actually do.

So by the same rationale Joyce wants to be paid the same as Low Capacity RPT/Charter CEO. Exactly the same job and title.

And why have multiple CEO’s? Joyce is CEO Qantas, Wirthless is CEO Qantas Loyalty, Evans is CEO Jetstar, Gissing has been CEO but now is Group Executive, why not roll all these businesses under the one entity and have just one CEO, call the others just ‘Managers’ and slice their salaries by a third. After all, they’ve all contributed a loss of $800m or whatever it was, so they deserve a pay downgrade.

And why exactly is he at the jobs summit,he wont agree with anything unless it involves a wage freeze & then if lucky a pay rise at least 50% below cpi whilst he & his cronies keep lining their pockets & blaming everyone else for the problems being highlighted every day of the werk.

What he actually said was:

Guess it will have the usual ABC left wing bias.

Guess it will have the usual ABC left wing bias only presenting negative view points.

That you Alan?

So what do you except a “neutral” ABC report should be? Letting business leaders and executives spout talking points without being questioned?

If you want regurgitated talking points consume other media like News Corp and their hand wringing about the recent jobs summit.

I for one am glad the we have quality investigative journalism provided by 4C that has exposed many things the public needs to be aware of, I’ll harken back to their expose of the Norfolk Island ditching incident and the failure of CASA and the ATSB, which eventually led to the departure of the heads of both those organisations.

On top of the 4 Corners report, tonight's news services will be full of reports about JQ stranding it pax in DPS, HNL, NRT etc due to numerous issues with the 787 fleet. As usual, JQ is not helping itself with truly dire customer service.

you sound like the majority of Captains I flew with back in the day (in between two other common gripes about ungrateful tenants in their negative geared properties, and the evil tax man stealing half their income)

Unfortunately the same issues exist today - most tenants in rental properties are complete and utter deplorable grubs and they have gotten worse since ‘back in your day’. And the taxman takes an even bigger chunk out of your wage now than ‘back then’, when you include all the hidden taxes. After all, the Government wants us all to be self supported/not rely on Government handouts as we get older and retire, yet they pillage and rape us financially on our journey to retirement as self funded pensioners. Unless of course you are a politician, then life is merry and wealth is easy to accumulate.

Tell me you’re an out of touch boomer with a silver spoon in your mouth without telling me you’re an out of touch boomer with a silver spoon in your mouth.

Deadset w**ker.

Is this a joke?

An article by Kevin Rudd, in The Guardian, arguing that the ABC is not biased???

Or CEO of a legacy airline- $2b worth of your tax dollars at work right there.

Ha ha. And there you have it! Shelve your emotions, I didn’t say ‘every’ tenant, and no mate, I worked hard to get where I am today, never had a family member, rich relative or gold lotto to help me. No silver spoons in my top drawer.

Tsk tsk now the nationalistic card gets drawn. I didn’t say every tenant was a grub, but the good ones are a minority. And I didn’t say that you as an individual were a grub either, yet you labelled me as a grub because I’m a Kiwi and you included a rant about the West Island. What a piece of work you are junior.

Well, if it's any consolation, I'm a kiwi and I still think Paragraph377 is a complete and utter Pratt...

To test the service on the Prime Minister's plane :ok:

Qantas boss Alan Joyce snubs his own airline to fly Air Force Albo - The Sydney Morning Herald (2 September 2022)

What was the carbon footprint of that flight? An A330 for 20 people seems a little excessive. Maybe Albo doesn't actually believe in climate change after all.

"Inside the Canberra bubble" is an example of how the ABC and 4C got a little carried away with itself. Yes they do some good stuff, tempered with some questionable "journalism".

And being a Kiwi you are obviously a grub as well, just like me.

What a vile, toxic industry.

Or saying Steve Price has been cancelled.

Nothing that anyone working in aviation didn't know. Anyone outside of aviation won't care.

Nothing new in this documentary. However it does go to show why we need IR reform and maybe why AJ is worried about the current government’s Jobs Summit and possible introduction of multi-employer bargaining

No chairmans lounge for that reporter - he's been a naughty boy!

Time to roll out some new aboriginal color schemes, aboriginal aircraft names and a First Australians employment and training program. Burrow into Australias society like a cattle tick.

That’s the Qantas way; When we want something from Government, it’s “We are the nations flag carrier - as uniquely Australian and warm and fuzzy as a koala - protect us!; However when it suits them it’s “we are an international company competing in a tough market - staff must be internationally competitive - eff off!”

The result? “Internationally competitive” crappy working conditions but “uniquely Australian” stratospheric ticket prices.

Qantas is a blight on the Australian economy because it sucks way too much money out of tourism and business travel industries.

P.S. To Ita and the ABC Board, I guess you didn’t need that Chairman’s lounge membership any more.

While I hate to echo Joyce "Virgin are as bad as us", fact is the Chairman's Lounge was a copy of the Ansett Executive Lounge, Virgin's 'The Club' was a completely over-hyped version of the same thing. All airlines chase political patronage, for goodness sake, ZL got $180M during COVID that no other airline got because it cried poor about it's regional network then went straight out and spent the money on 737s. If the government had any balls it would have demanded the money back. I'm not talking about JobKeeper and fee forgiveness (airport fees, etc.) as all airlines got them. ZL did what they did and got that money, purely by using their political connections with their Deputy Chair being the former President of the National Party.

And what's the alternative program?? Sky News After Dark, where we have political has-beens such as Ms Bishop (I struggle to see a single think she did in her entire quarter century in parliament of any benefit and befitting her obscene pension/super) with a straight face saying the PRC invented COVID as a biological weapon.

ALL journalists make mistakes, Jesus, how many times has Murdoch and his dirty little gossip rag the Telegraph been dragged through the courts, not to mention 9, 7 and 10 (the latter who doesn't really produce news, just sponsored puff pieces).

4 Corners is the premier investigative program in this country, it has done much good over the years. There was no exaggeration in their program on the bastardry toward Witness K, Bernard and what we did to the East Timorese.

There is an argument to be made that ceaseless bullying and threats from the previous government have, at times, led to mistakes because the ABC has a quarter of the resources that it had previously. Thanks to the LNP, they can't even afford to caption programs anymore, using a stupid 'AI' generator that gets half the words wrong.

It's ironic, in corporate terms they are similar to Qantas, in Qantas' case, greedy management is stripping the company bare and in the ABC's case, it's been a government so upstanding that it's leader secretly held half the portfolios in his Cabinet (well, most of the important ones anyway).