Auckland to New York Qantas
 

As part of the financial results today it was announced a new route Auckland to New York on the 787 commencing in 2023. It also said the flights are timed to connect to Australian desinations. Will this go Auckland direct to NYC like Air NZ or are they talking NZ to OZ to connect to an international service?

Not exactly earth shattering, they were flying AKL-LAX years ago.

Must be when the next slate of 78s are due to arrive.

this is just another scheme to use non australian based staff, these flight's will be crewed by cheaper more compliant nz based flight attendant's. no crew rest needed

Yeh,he said 3 new 78's are coming next year.
I would be using Air NZ if i was travelling,thats for sure.

Likewise, always good to have fallback options though.

Why would anyone (at least from Australia) want to go via Auckland in the first place?

Why would anyone want to travel on QF over almost any other carrier if you didn't have to. If you are going via AKL, you'd want to be travelling air NZ.

Well just think about it for a minute assuming you are going to New York.
I would much rather transit through AKL than LAX any day thanks.

100% AKL transfer is way better than LAX.

QF are forced to have a crack at this because they dilly dallied with their A350 Sunrise clickbait propaganda. If they got their A350s when they were supposed to, the travelling Australian public would be bypassing NZ all together en route the NYC.

AirNz are a good product (better is debatable) and AKL is much better than JFK. QF had to react on that route.

Fuel capacity
 

I imagine the route has been planned via AKL due to range issues when flying westbound against the prevailing winds. Northbound is not so much of an issue provided holding times are reasonable at JFK.

Give me the QF J cabin anyday over the current NZ hideous J config.

When I read your post last night, I had a look at the ANZ J cabin layout. It’s very strange indeed!!

Foran is dumping all the Kiwi ‘innovations’ in bizarre product design and is going with the more conventional German options starting in a few years.

When QF101/100 used to operate to LAX it was always full, often oversold every night. It was a very popular option. Albeit it was the same aeroplane all the way through from MEL but for MEL-LAX traffic it cut out the side-show at SYD and usual inevitable aircraft change and was two reasonable sized sectors and not one short one then 14-15 hours.

Seems to be an option worth considering, especially if there are reasonable connections to a range of Australian and New Zealand cities or easy and reasonable stop-over arrangements. I recall that ANZ briefly operated AKL-SYD-LAX.

Probably some truth to this however I’d imagine the savings using NZ CC would be minimal in the grand scheme of things. All of the b789s have CC rest facilities. No sleeping on seat.

inb4 Qantas sell the crew rest bunks to passengers and then make the crew sleep over lower yielding economy seats

Thank goodness we have the peanut gallery to advise QF and others how to run the airline!