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Telfer86 15th Aug 2022 06:09

Changes to Qantas Group Testing
 
Someone told me that all Qantas Group online testing exam has moved to a proctored (supervised) platform , using webcam & software etc

First to use this new platform will be internals trying to move to QF Mainline

Perhaps somebody could confirm

Likely will make it all a larger Challenge

Swept-Wing 15th Aug 2022 07:44

Can confirm.

https://talentcentral.learning.shl.c...ng%20Guide.pdf

brokenagain 15th Aug 2022 07:48

So what graduate genius in the ‘campus’ came up with this solution to a problem that doesn’t exist? No wonder so many Aussie pilots are leaving for the US.

ACMS 15th Aug 2022 07:53

All our problems started when HR took over something they know nothing about.

SITTINGBULL 15th Aug 2022 08:08

Interesting, the latest bunch I am aware of are using the SHL exams, nothing proctored.

I really can't see this being a larger challenge to candidates, I haven't heard of anyone getting others to sit exams for them... it's just a safer bet to study aptitude stuff before hand.

...Will QG use webcams to determine who gets a gig based on who appears to be the LEAST pissed off candidate as they try and figure out if it is Craig, Lucy, Kate or Michael driving the blue car?


Further, weren't internals told a while back that they weren't going to have to do online testing to put in for Mainline?

Swept-Wing 15th Aug 2022 08:38


Originally Posted by SITTINGBULL (Post 11278615)
Further, weren't internals told a while back that they weren't going to have to do online testing to put in for Mainline?

I think this was just an unconfirmed rumour because everyone expected internals to get talent testing at the same time as externals, if they were expected to do it.

dr dre 15th Aug 2022 08:47

So it’s just the standard aptitude and psych testing that’s been done for decades now being done remotely? You’ll find a lot of recruitment for similar roles and industries is done this way, primarily a cost saving measure, but it’s the same principle.

Applications for mainline positions were 4-5 times the likely numbers needed, so how else do you choose the ones you employ? It’s not an enviable task but this new online testing is basically the same hoop almost all current pilots jumped through to get where they are.

RU/16 15th Aug 2022 09:08

So you could be A320 captain at Network or B717 Captain at NJS, fail the testing at mainline to be a SO! ,but the go back to being a Captain in the group? Can’t they just look at their files in the group and make the decision?

Fujiroll76 15th Aug 2022 09:17

You can keep complaining about testing or just knuckle down and get over it….like everyone before you has done. Good luck if you planned on someone else doing it for you. Many have been caught out at the verification stage..embarrassing.

Internals at Link and JQ have been sent testing this month.

Falling Leaf 15th Aug 2022 10:42


All I can say is this woke pseudo corporate communist country can go f..k itself! I think every pilot should just leave...
That sums up how I feel about this place perfectly! Could't have said it better!

umop apisdn 15th Aug 2022 12:58


Originally Posted by brokenagain (Post 11278595)
So what graduate genius in the ‘campus’ came up with this solution to a problem that doesn’t exist? No wonder so many Aussie pilots are leaving for the US.

Dude I had a whole army working on my test with me.

morno 15th Aug 2022 14:07

Far out fellas, I sat down with a cup of coffee and knocked it out as best I could, still managed to pass it. Don’t know why you’re all so worried about it.

cLeArIcE 15th Aug 2022 17:13

I think you'll find it's not so much the testing itself. More the fact that nearly everyone got offered testing before internals did. No one expected that. Then even if you make it through the hoops and get the job, you'll be held hostage by your current Q group employer for potentially years, to then join at the bottom of a very long seniority list when they see fit. The only people the Q group treat worse than their passengers are their staff. No respect at all. The least they could do is offer a seniority number to internals when they get the job. There is so much hatred within the group by the staff and rubbish like this is just another pineapple inserted.

Jester64 15th Aug 2022 20:30


Originally Posted by morno (Post 11278841)
Far out fellas, I sat down with a cup of coffee and knocked it out as best I could, still managed to pass it. Don’t know why you’re all so worried about it.

Congtratz on telling us how smart you are….stoopid though to assume everyone is of the same intellect as you.

aseriesofleftturns 15th Aug 2022 22:00


Originally Posted by morno (Post 11278841)
Far out fellas, I sat down with a cup of coffee and knocked it out as best I could, still managed to pass it. Don’t know why you’re all so worried about it.

You are a living inspiration to all. Please Sky God, bless us with even an ounce of your wisdom.

morno 15th Aug 2022 22:34

Winding you lot up is my second favourite past time

SixDemonBag 16th Aug 2022 00:28

Shouldn’t this be in the QF recruitment thread?….oh wait, they’re debating about TAF3’s there

Charizard90 16th Aug 2022 00:46

Does anyone know where I can get a copy of my recorded exam? I'd love to know how many times I said F#$%!

Koizi 16th Aug 2022 02:09


Originally Posted by SixDemonBag (Post 11279124)
Shouldn’t this be in the QF recruitment thread?….oh wait, they’re debating about TAF3’s there

This gave me a genuine laugh.

Angle of Attack 16th Aug 2022 09:54

OK Morno has just been called a Qantas Sky God, That is absolute gold! I never thought I would see that on pprune.

morno 16th Aug 2022 15:45


Originally Posted by Angle of Attack (Post 11279293)
OK Morno has just been called a Qantas Sky God, That is absolute gold! I never thought I would see that on pprune.

I know, even I got a chuckle out of that :D

FJ44 17th Aug 2022 11:45


Originally Posted by morno (Post 11279527)
I know, even I got a chuckle out of that :D

He was a Sky-God in a C210 and it’s only got worse from there… :rolleyes:

Angle of Attack 17th Aug 2022 12:19

Well the C210 does have retractable gear so you fixed gear plebs just watch out!

morno 17th Aug 2022 12:26


Originally Posted by FJ44 (Post 11280018)
He was a Sky-God in a C210 and it’s only got worse from there… :rolleyes:

Never flew a 210, so NFI what you’re talking about

Transition Layer 17th Aug 2022 13:59


Originally Posted by Angle of Attack (Post 11279293)
OK Morno has just been called a Qantas Sky God, That is absolute gold! I never thought I would see that on pprune.

I quite enjoyed it also!

So morno, from what you’ve posted here, it seems we may get to share a flight deck one day soon! I’ll even let you be the Sky God for the day!

morno 17th Aug 2022 23:01


Originally Posted by Transition Layer (Post 11280107)
I quite enjoyed it also!

So morno, from what you’ve posted here, it seems we may get to share a flight deck one day soon! I’ll even let you be the Sky God for the day!

It’ll be a hoot, look forward to it.

onezeroonethree 30th Aug 2022 03:56


Originally Posted by cLeArIcE (Post 11278928)
I think you'll find it's not so much the testing itself. More the fact that nearly everyone got offered testing before internals did. No one expected that. Then even if you make it through the hoops and get the job, you'll be held hostage by your current Q group employer for potentially years, to then join at the bottom of a very long seniority list when they see fit. The only people the Q group treat worse than their passengers are their staff. No respect at all. The least they could do is offer a seniority number to internals when they get the job. There is so much hatred within the group by the staff and rubbish like this is just another pineapple inserted.

This comment is incredibly accurate. Good luck to any internals wishing to go to QF.
you’ll be held for years while externals get seniority above you. Good luck making a captain at QF if you’re over 30 and get hired fiiiinally in three years time. Yeah, some internals, covid aside, waited two to three years.

Subsids like network will trickle one per month at best, if they have their own pilot bases filling, which they don’t and won’t any time soon, just to dangle that carrot in front of you.

Just jump to VA or USA. At least they have negotiations. Not ultimatums.

Fujiroll76 30th Aug 2022 04:19


Originally Posted by onezeroonethree (Post 11287479)
This comment is incredibly accurate. Good luck to any internals wishing to go to QF.
you’ll be held for years while externals get seniority above you. Good luck making a captain at QF if you’re over 30 and get hired fiiiinally in three years time. Yeah, some internals, covid aside, waited two to three years.

Subsids like network will trickle one per month at best, if they have their own pilot bases filling, which they don’t and won’t any time soon, just to dangle that carrot in front of you.

Just jump to VA or USA. At least they have negotiations. Not ultimatums.

I see the unsuccessful letters were sent out today.

onezeroonethree 30th Aug 2022 07:30


Originally Posted by Fujiroll76 (Post 11287483)
I see the unsuccessful letters were sent out today.

My statement is true, is it not?


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