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werbil 13th Jun 2022 06:09

Qantas Smiles: shareholders and executives grin, customers and staff grit their
 
Qantas smiles: shareholders and executives grin customers and staff grit their teeth

blubak 13th Jun 2022 08:20

For everybody who has access to twitter & im sure facebook would be similar,have a read of whats being posted about AJ & his greed & his complete disregard for anyone or anything other than himself & his self serving interest.
He has destroyed the reputation of Qantas single handedly & is answerable to nobody it seems,his greed & arrogance has no boundaries.

PoppaJo 13th Jun 2022 11:07

The Swissport issue isn’t going away. It will get worse and worse. They had enough trouble handling the Tiger and Pacific Blue contracts back in the day let alone all this.


Fonz121 13th Jun 2022 12:03

I saw a QF job advert the other day for in-house ground staff. Rumours of Swissport getting the arse.

morno 13th Jun 2022 12:15


Originally Posted by Fonz121 (Post 11245399)
I saw a QF job advert the other day for in-house ground staff. Rumours of Swissport getting the arse.

That was put to bed in the same thread. It’s QLink handling.

Australopithecus 13th Jun 2022 23:56

We just saw a Swissport group of trainees under our nose in Melbourne. I take no pleasure in reporting that we both thought it looked like a far side cartoon.

kingRB 14th Jun 2022 00:32

There's new swissport trainees at every single port they operate at, every single day. I'm not sure how anyone can even be trained anymore - at the rate they leave, the new guy delivering the training hasn't been there long enough to even know anything.

Icarus2001 14th Jun 2022 00:38


He has destroyed the reputation of Qantas single handedly & is answerable to nobody it seems,his greed & arrogance has no boundaries.
As was always the case, he is answerable to the shareholders and board. Not the court of public opinion.

Paragraph377 14th Jun 2022 02:56


Originally Posted by blubak (Post 11245291)
For everybody who has access to twitter & im sure facebook would be similar,have a read of whats being posted about AJ & his greed & his complete disregard for anyone or anything other than himself & his self serving interest.
He has destroyed the reputation of Qantas single handedly & is answerable to nobody it seems,his greed & arrogance has no boundaries.

In other words, Joyce is the poster boy of the modern CEO - destroy everything around you while loading your own pockets. He meets the CEO criteria 100%.

kingRB 14th Jun 2022 03:14


Originally Posted by Paragraph377 (Post 11245718)
In other words, Joyce is the poster boy of the modern CEO - destroy everything around you while loading your own pockets. He meets the CEO criteria 100%.

Privatised profits - Socialised debt. You don't need to worry about what customers think when the Government's money printer has your back

ampclamp 14th Jun 2022 04:06

Within my friends and family group every one of them that has flown recently have had bags lost. One couple twice on their honeymoon trip.

The same couple were punted off their flights as someone failed to process their FF points flights correctly and failed to tell them. Only found out a few days before their departure when they enquired where their tickets were. Took literally days on the phone and a trip to the airport to find someone that was willing and able to help get flights sorted.

Truly appalling customer service.

AJ has finally achieved his goals. Full service pricing, LCC service levels.


Colonel_Klink 14th Jun 2022 04:28


Originally Posted by kingRB (Post 11245727)
Privatised profits - Socialised debt. You don't need to worry about what customers think when the Government's money printer has your back

QF shares are more secure than government bonds!

gordonfvckingramsay 14th Jun 2022 05:05


Originally Posted by kingRB (Post 11245727)
Privatised profits - Socialised debt. You don't need to worry about what customers think when the Government's money printer has your back

Ironically this is a very weak position to be in. The government is far more ruthless than QF and when they want a “little more” in return for their help, the only option AJ has is to give them what they want or risk losing the backing. QF has very little to offer the travelling public and when the government backing dries up, so does the company. QF is a house of cards unfortunately.

Ollie Onion 14th Jun 2022 05:10

QF Is not a house of cards, they can’t fail.

gordonfvckingramsay 14th Jun 2022 05:21


Originally Posted by Ollie Onion (Post 11245748)
QF Is not a house of cards, they can’t fail.

That’s what makes them fallible

rodney rude 14th Jun 2022 05:30

I remember back when Ansett collapsed , the quality of onboard catering for both crew and pax went woefully downhill almost over night. It was so obvious that once they didn't have a competitor, QF were happy to say why look after pax?, They've got no choice now!! It wasn't good will delivering a service, it was just to keep in the game. Once the opposition was gone, they showed their disdain for the travelling public. A number of years later, I read that one of the QF upper execs, Strambi possibly, admitted that the ball was dropped by them big time with that awful display of arrogance.

I reckon that's what will happen this time - Joyce has totally destroyed in every way this airline and reaps the bonuses of reduced costs - face it, he's brilliant - no service means no costs, right?!. Move forward a couple of years, 10,000 bags lost, 10,000 complaints of no phones being answered, 10,000 complaints of refunds impossible to get - Joyce will meekly say yes we got that wrong and we're making amends now. But its all too late - bonus has already been spent on a new harbourside mansion.

Paragraph377 14th Jun 2022 05:34


Originally Posted by rodney rude (Post 11245752)
I remember back when Ansett collapsed , the quality of onboard catering for both crew and pax went woefully downhill almost over night. It was so obvious that once they didn't have a competitor, QF were happy to say why look after pax?, They've got no choice now!! It wasn't good will delivering a service, it was just to keep in the game. Once the opposition was gone, they showed their disdain for the travelling public. A number of years later, I read that one of the QF upper execs, Strambi possibly, admitted that the ball was dropped by them big time with that awful display of arrogance.

I reckon that's what will happen this time - Joyce has totally destroyed in every way this airline and reaps the bonuses of reduced costs - face it, he's brilliant - no service means no costs, right?!. Move forward a couple of years, 10,000 bags lost, 10,000 complaints of no phones being answered, 10,000 complaints of refunds impossible to get - Joyce will meekly say yes we got that wrong and we're making amends now. But its all too late - bonus has already been spent on a new harbourside mansion.

Since taking the helm he has earned approximately $120m. That’s salary, share options, bonuses and other perks. That in itself is an absolute joke.

Chronic Snoozer 14th Jun 2022 07:37


Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 11245690)
As was always the case, he is answerable to the shareholders and board. Not the court of public opinion.

He is a Chief Executive Officer not a mill owner. Social media could be his undoing. This is someone who hypocritically claimed customers weren’t match fit.

Australopithecus 14th Jun 2022 07:42

How do companies fail? Slowly for a long time, the all at once. If QF had a fully engaged competitor we would be toast. Well done. The kind you smell just before stroking out.

Icarus2001 14th Jun 2022 11:58

Joyce will never have to face the music, he will not even be there to pay for the new aircraft. The next CEO will cop the lot.


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