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olderairhead 31st May 2022 04:49

QF2008 hydraulic failure
 
In today's Courier Mail
Passengers on QF2008 Sydney to Tamworth told to brace as flight may not end on the tarmac.

Passengers on a plane forced back to Sydney sent final goodbyes to loved ones after being told their flight ‘may not end up on the runway’, and to brace for impact.
Passengers told to brace for impact after hydraulic fault on plane.
Passengers on a plane about to land in Sydney were told they may not finish on the tarmac and to brace for impact, in a terrifying moment where people called their loved ones with final goodbyes.
The Qantas flight, due to land in Tamworth on Sunday evening, left those on board shaken after their aircraft was forced to make an emergency landing at Sydney Airport due to complications with the hydraulics.
QF2008 passenger Jesse, flying from Sydney to Tamworth, said he was “highly anxious and nervous” on board the Dash 8 turboprop, which he believed “would be a fair description for most of the cabin”.
Panic first kicked in for Jesse when the pilot told passengers they were experiencing “technical issues” and may have to divert to Sydney, as the aircraft was flying “in a holding pattern around Tamworth airport”.
“That (panic) was fully exacerbated when they advised they would be doing an emergency landing and we may or may not end on tarmac,” he said.
Passengers on board Qantas flight QF2008 from Sydney to Tamworth on Sunday evening were left shaken and crew “very very frightened” following an emergency landing.
Jesse said passengers sent messages to their loved ones.“
I was literally expecting to belly dump without landing gear at Sydney airport so had sent out a couple of last messages to people.
The lady beside me had done the same,” he said.
“I’m pretty disappointed at Qantas around the whole thing, but particularly in-flight.“
With the little information there wasn’t a lot to feel positive about.
The second officer was fairly reassuring and did a much better job than the pilot in her communication.
“She was attempting to be more reassuring than the captain and had advised that we would be landing on the longest runway in Australia and that the weather was perfect in Sydney.
“She reiterated that we were having problems with hydraulic fluids and advised that we may or ‘may not end up on the runway after landing’, the crew looked very worried at that stage as were many passengers.
Radar data shows the flight was about to land in Tamworth when the hydraulic issue forced the plane back to Sydney.
“We were shown the emergency procedure and then went in to land.
There was no braking applied on landing and we were all bracing for impact as the crew yelled out ‘brace, brace, brace.’
”The plane landed at around 9:30pm.“
It was a pretty good landing, we rolled to a standstill, full emergency crews came around the plane when it landed and we stayed on the tarmac for about 15 minutes before disembarking,” Jesse said.
“During that time the pilot came out and said the hydraulic fluids had bled out which affects a lot of the systems in the aeroplane.”
A Qantas spokeswoman said at no point was the aircraft at risk of not landing on the runway.
“Passengers were informed that the aircraft may need to be towed to the gate after landing due to the hydraulic issue,” she said.
“At no point was the aircraft at risk of not landing on the runway.“
We understand this would have been a very unsettling experience for our passengers and sincerely thank them for their cooperation throughout the flight.”

Sliding member 31st May 2022 06:26

Ops normal on a Q400! I wonder if there was a mis interpretation in the cabin though? Normally a loss of one hyd system wouldn't result in a runway excursion.

C441 31st May 2022 07:37


The second officer was fairly reassuring and did a much better job than the pilot in her communication.
I didn't know QantasLink have S/O's and they don't even have to be pilots! :rolleyes:

A reporter from one of the major television stations lived in our building. I once suggested he call me to clarify any uncertainties he had when reporting aviation incidents. "We don't have time for that" he replied. I guess accuracy's not as important as getting a possibly factually inaccurate report out.

morno 31st May 2022 07:59

That's hilarious, but frustrating. No wonder people are scared of flying. Thanks media

tossbag 31st May 2022 08:28

Absolutely pathetic, you look at what Ukraine is going through and then read the comments of some of the morons on board. Zero resilience, always petrified and constantly offended.

PPRuNeUser0184 31st May 2022 08:32


Originally Posted by tossbag (Post 11238216)
Absolutely pathetic, you look at what Ukraine is going through and then read the comments of some of the morons on board. Zero resilience, always petrified and constantly offended.

Absolutely spot on

Stationair8 31st May 2022 09:13

Hopefully passenger Jesse, can move forward and live a happy life.
One day he can tell his grandchildren about his traumatic Qantas experience.

fdr 31st May 2022 09:50

‘may not end up on the runway after landing’

hmmm.


English is not a second language in Aussie, although some colloquialisms take some getting used to. Happened to be in AUS this AM, and listened to the FM stations reporting this, and it was pretty oddly reported. The major station related the story that the Captain had suggested that the passengers call home to their loved ones (best beer can, dog named blue, the old sheila, the favourite FJ Holden, etc... ). Aussies can be pretty laid back, not sure that story has any truth.

may not be able to exit the runway...
may have to stop on the runway....
etc doesn't mean we may depart the runway in a cloud of dust. But then, maybe....
tapes gonna be interesting to listen to, and one radio station may be up for a rude letter.


Mach E Avelli 31st May 2022 10:17

If you can get the gear down (they obviously did), even without nose wheel steering, possibly no flaps, surely emergency braking? and prop reverse still available, landing a medium turbo prop on one of the longest runways in Australia would be almost a non-event.
Calling for the brace position seems a bit OTT, but perhaps this is company policy? CYA gone mad…

340drvr 31st May 2022 11:20

Not unlike the old bit, captain comes on the PA and simply says "Everyone remain calm, there is no need to panic."
Seriously, glad to hear it all worked out.

Aimpoint 31st May 2022 20:05


Originally Posted by Mach E Avelli (Post 11238283)
Calling for the brace position seems a bit OTT, but perhaps this is company policy? CYA gone mad…

It's not policy for an abnormal situation like this. If one of the legs didn't extend, or an overrun was likely, then sure.

Ascend Charlie 31st May 2022 21:45

Where was GT talking of plummeting from the sky, the primary schools in the vicinity, and the brave actions of the cabin crew?

geeup 1st Jun 2022 00:37

Nice landing Captain & I’ll take the fat one

Duck Pilot 2nd Jun 2022 09:41

Sounds like the old days when I would tell everyone in the back to brace when olderairhead would try and land the Dash 8 🤫🤫🤫

Those were good days Shaggs!


ScepticalOptomist 2nd Jun 2022 10:30


Originally Posted by tossbag (Post 11238216)
Absolutely pathetic, you look at what Ukraine is going through and then read the comments of some of the morons on board. Zero resilience, always petrified and constantly offended.

Unfortunately the old Aussie spirit is long gone and has been replaced by this…

olderairhead 3rd Jun 2022 02:09


Originally Posted by Duck Pilot (Post 11239455)
Sounds like the old days when I would tell everyone in the back to brace when olderairhead would try and land the Dash 8 🤫🤫🤫

Those were good days Shaggs!

Still jealous of my superior skills Duck. :}

nivsy 3rd Jun 2022 11:49

So was this in the scheme of things really just a "non event"?

Must say QF have had over recent years some "issues" with their Q400 operations. Are these aircraft highly used?


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