Of Ukraine, Russia and QF9
With the Russkies fart-arsing about in the Ukraine again, the UK CAA looks to have banned any Russian-affiliate aircraft from their skies, whether it is owned, registered or otherwise associated with, their Federation.
Which makes me wonder how long it may be until Russia retaliates against the west and closes their airspace to any nation that has done it to them? Where does that leave the Leprechaun's flagship Darwin-London routing, given as things stand it spends about 40% of their time over Russian soil? |
I’m going to guess the speeding up of the PER-LHR route again.
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These days it looks as if going past Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Iran will be the “safe” route.....
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Originally Posted by KRviator
(Post 11189873)
. With the Russkies fart-arsing about in the Ukraine again,
It is a brutal reality that VP has jumped completely over the line. (Of sanity) My thoughts are with the Ukraine citizens and the Russian citizens that are completely against this action. Qantas will be fine. |
The Russians need the money from overflight charges.
No change expected Flown over Afghanistan when the Yanks were still bombing |
I’m going to guess the speeding up of the PER-LHR route again. https://www.wa.gov.au/government/cov...ational-travel |
Originally Posted by AQIS Boigu
(Post 11189907)
Flown over Afghanistan when the Yanks were still bombing
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BA no longer routing via Russian airspace & Russia reportedly just followed up by banning UK aircraft.
https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...ys-2022-02-25/ |
So how will BA reroute flights to Tokoyo and Hong Kong? Surely not via Anchorage like the old days. Mind you I loved the time there back on 747-100's
UK aircraft banned from over flying Russia |
No doubt it will be profit before safety for most operators. ☹️
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Originally Posted by crewmeal
(Post 11190012)
So how will BA reroute flights to Tokyo and Hong Kong? Surely not via Anchorage like the old days. Mind you I loved the time there back on 747-100's
I think you'll find that BA not currently flying those routes, however SIN (& SYD from end March) will have to route south. I wonder how many DRW/LHR pax have the faintest idea of routing? |
Originally Posted by Max Tow
(Post 11190017)
I think you'll find that BA not currently flying those routes, however SIN (& SYD from end March) will have to route south.
I wonder how many DRW/LHR pax have the faintest idea of routing? |
The Australian Prime Minister just criticised Vladimir Putin and announced heavy sanctions against Russia, and wealthy Russians connected to the Russian Government.
Qantas just announced that they would continue to fly QF9 over Russia. What could possibly go wrong? |
So how will BA reroute flights to Tokoyo and Hong Kong? Surely not via Anchorage like the old days. Mind you I loved the time there back on 747-100's With the Russkies fart-arsing about in the Ukraine again, the UK CAA looks to have banned any Russian-affiliate aircraft from their skies, whether it is owned, registered or otherwise associated with, their Federation. Which makes me wonder how long it may be until Russia retaliates against the west and closes their airspace to any nation that has done it to them? Where does that leave the Leprechaun's flagship Darwin-London routing, given as things stand it spends about 40% of their time over Russian soil? |
Originally Posted by Derfred
(Post 11190181)
The Australian Prime Minister just criticised Vladimir Putin and announced heavy sanctions against Russia, and wealthy Russians connected to the Russian Government.
Qantas just announced that they would continue to fly QF9 over Russia. What could possibly go wrong? |
Originally Posted by blubak
(Post 11190474)
I think the plan to fly QF9 over russia will be just that,A PLAN.
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Why avoid Russian airspace? Avoid the area around the Ukraine by all means, as per FAA Notams etc but the greater part of the Russian FIR is as “safe” as it has been.
Putin has no interest in picking a fight with any other nations by endangering their aircraft. The risk is around Ukraine only. |
Originally Posted by Icarus2001
(Post 11190604)
Why avoid Russian airspace?……....
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IT isn't about the risk of being attacked I was thinking, that the economic cost, ie if EASA bans Russian overflights, etc, then, well, Russian airspace is a major thoroughfare for a lot of Asia-Europe type flights, even QF9 now out of Darwin spends a significant portion over Russian territory. Would Russia in turn close their airspace to everyone who has locked Aeroflot out, thus forcing QF and others into a long-winded route via the Middle East or SE Asia with additional fuel, landing fees etc?
As an example, right now over Russia there's: AI186 from Vancouver to Delhi AI174 San Fran - Delhi ANA224 Frankfurt-Haneda ANA212 London-Haneda JAL44 London-Tokyo KAL082 Chicago - Shanghai KAL038 Chicago - Seoul KAL094 Washington - Seoul And another couple dozen more, not to mention QF9 or QF1 - who has just left Russian airspace. One would imagine that everyone closing their airspace to Russian aircraft would have much less impact on world air travel than if Russia were to close their airspace to everyone else. |
Originally Posted by KRviator
(Post 11190632)
IT isn't about the risk of being attacked I was thinking, that the economic cost, ie if EASA bans Russian overflights, etc, then, well, Russian airspace is a major thoroughfare for a lot of Asia-Europe type flights, even QF9 now out of Darwin spends a significant portion over Russian territory. Would Russia in turn close their airspace to everyone who has locked Aeroflot out, thus forcing QF and others into a long-winded route via the Middle East or SE Asia with additional fuel, landing fees etc?
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