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deja vu 27th Jan 2022 11:26


Originally Posted by Mr Proach (Post 11175423)
GREAT NEWS!! The ABORIGINAL (First Nations People) FLAG is now freely available for use by the general public. I trust that Qantas (and others), an Australian airline, in the Spirit of Australia will paint the Aboriginal Flag on it's aircraft as matter or priority. Wouldn't it be great for the flag to be seen at airports around the nation and the globe.

I really see no reason why members of the aviation community should not be proportionally dumb as the general population out there, so why should I be surprised.

Doors Off 27th Jan 2022 11:33

Well Trolled, very well trolled. Sadly you had way too many bites. Move along now and let us call out the Supreme Leader of Western Korea and ignominious waste of tax payers money to issue millions in RAT for return to school.

Icarus2001 27th Jan 2022 12:08


The decision by any Australian airline to place either flag on one of their aircraft (or none at all) is their own decision as they are all private companies,
Last time I looked Qantas, Rex and Alliance were PUBLIC companies.

Mr Proach 27th Jan 2022 12:22


Originally Posted by sumtingwong (Post 11175763)
What a poor attempt at virtue signalling. Its the usual self righteous crap we’ve come to expect from Karens with nothing better to do.

It appears there is a long way to go? There it is. You’re already there….obviously, and the rest of us who may disagree, have a long way to catch up to you. At least you can be heartened at some progress being made, perhaps we can all grow up to be just like you eh?

I bet you say “correct” when someone says something you agree with. As if it wasn’t the truth until you confirmed it was. Hail Mr Proach o arbiter of truth.

I doubt there has ever been a time where there are more insufferable useful idiots on the planet than there are now. The yawning chasm between their impression of their intellect and the actual is so wide that no amount of moral posturing or preening could hope to fill it.

Wanna know how we know this? The first comment that disagreed with you, you played the race card. Game over Karen.

I don't usually say "correct", I don't have a consistent response, I might respond with something like: "That is my view" or "That's also my opinion". If I am doing times tables with the grand children and they respond with the answer I agree with, then I will use "correct". By the way when you write "we", are you representing a group of people? I don't agree with everything that you wrote however, thanks for your contribution.

dr dre 27th Jan 2022 12:23


Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 11175922)
Last time I looked Qantas, Rex and Alliance were PUBLIC companies.

Yes, I meant publicly listed companies answerable to their shareholders. Not Government owned or run companies.

If these airlines painted Aboriginal and TSI flags on their aircraft it would be the shareholders who will ultimately judge those actions.

I remember airlines copping some flack from the usual sources against the Same Sex Marriage campaign in 2017. One even painted a rainbow emblem on one aircraft. They also made a billion dollar profit. I don't think the shareholders cared too much, nor did the traveling public, nor did the employees, because they all didn't walk out in protest.

That's probably what the reaction will be to any painting of Aboriginal and TSI flags on any Australian airliner, after all the usual cries of "Politically Correct Woke Nonsense!" have subsided.

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 27th Jan 2022 12:25


The ABORIGINAL (First Nations People) FLAG is now freely available for use by the general public
Let's see how long that lasts.

SID PLATE 27th Jan 2022 15:55

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e6c733b818.jpg

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a9e582f140.jpg
Ireland's biggest airline doesn't use the Irish national flag.

The current tail logo is the top picture. The original suggestion for a logo is below, until O'Leary intervened. Spot the difference ?

sumtingwong 27th Jan 2022 18:27


Originally Posted by Mr Proach (Post 11175932)
By the way when you write "we", are you representing a group of people?.

How dare you/them/ze/zat/slap question my pronouns.

OldLurker 27th Jan 2022 18:31


Originally Posted by SID PLATE (Post 11176020)
Ireland's biggest airline doesn't use the Irish national flag.

Yes, it does. It uses the national flag of the country of registration, so it puts the Irish national flag beside the registration letters on its Irish (EI-) registered aircraft.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0791bd502c.jpg

tail wheel 27th Jan 2022 18:50


"Why shouldn't the Aboriginal flag be recognised internationally?"
Each country has only one National Flag. The Aboriginal Flag represents our Aboriginal people, estimated 864,000 of our 25 million population, or 3.5% of our population. The Torres Strait Flag represents the interests of our 38,700 TI Islanders, or 0.15% of our population.

We also have nine official flags representing each of our States and Territories. How many flags do you think Australia should expect to be recognized internationally? How many flags do you want placarded on the side of Qantas aircraft?

We are proudly a nation with diverse ethnic and cultural heritages, but in all respects internationally Australia is ONE Nation with ONE recognized National flag.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_flag

minigundiplomat 27th Jan 2022 19:20

Mr Proach is either an insufferable tool or has a world leading trolling game.

Ascend Charlie 27th Jan 2022 19:59


Originally Posted by Mr Proach (Post 11175824)
In your opinion, has the first nation's people quality of life improved or deteriorated since British occupation?

Well, from your high horse you could perhaps see that they are no longer seen to be running naked around the bush throwing bent sticks at kangaroos.

TriJetFlying 27th Jan 2022 20:07


Originally Posted by minigundiplomat (Post 11176127)
Mr Proach is either an insufferable tool or has a world leading trolling game.

or, you could’ve said. A silly old lefty fool.

Mr Proach 27th Jan 2022 21:36


Originally Posted by TriJetFlying (Post 11176154)
or, you could’ve said. A silly old lefty fool.

Why do you make that statement.

Cat3508 27th Jan 2022 22:05


Originally Posted by tail wheel (Post 11176116)
Each country has only one National Flag. The Aboriginal Flag represents our Aboriginal people, estimated 864,000 of our 25 million population, or 3.5% of our population. The Torres Strait Flag represents the interests of our 38,700 TI Islanders, or 0.15% of our population.

We also have nine official flags representing each of our States and Territories. How many flags do you think Australia should expect to be recognized internationally? How many flags do you want placarded on the side of Qantas aircraft?

We are proudly a nation with diverse ethnic and cultural heritages, but in all respects internationally Australia is ONE Nation with ONE recognized National flag.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_flag


Finally, an erudite and correct answer to the whole subject. I do wish we had a like button

Mr Proach 27th Jan 2022 22:16


Originally Posted by tail wheel (Post 11176116)
How many flags do you want placarded on the side of Qantas aircraft?

It is not really a matter of what I want however, in my view I consider it would be appropriate to add the Aboriginal flag in the context of the definition of "aboriginal". From the posts, I am gaining the impression it is viewed as some kind of threat to the national identity.

Mr Proach 27th Jan 2022 22:43


Originally Posted by minigundiplomat (Post 11176127)
Mr Proach is either an insufferable tool or has a world leading trolling game.

I don't really understand what a "world leading trolling game" is. Would you explain what it is please?

Cravenmorehead 27th Jan 2022 22:51

True tail wheel et al, the current flag is the one you have posted. This does not mean we should not investigate a change from an outdated flag one which has represented a time when the indigenous people were treated badly by our forbearers. People associate Qantas with Australia and by putting the Torres Strait and First Nations flag on the aircraft it will make them familiar with the symbol and what it means to them and me a white second generation Australian who is proud of our indigenous people.
Just a thought.

MickG0105 27th Jan 2022 23:00


Originally Posted by Mr Proach (Post 11176210)
It is not really a matter of what I want however, in my view I consider it would be appropriate to add the Aboriginal flag in the context of the definition of "aboriginal". From the posts, I am gaining the impression it is viewed as some kind of threat to the national identity.

The Aboriginal flag and the Torres Strait Islander flag both have equal status. It would be quite inappropriate to "add the Aboriginal flag" without also adding the Torres Strait Islander flag.

MickG0105 27th Jan 2022 23:09


Originally Posted by tail wheel (Post 11176116)
Each country has only one National Flag.

For every rule, an exception. Since 2009 Bolivia has had two national flags; the red-yellow-green horizontal tricolor with the Bolivian coat of arms in the center, and the southern Qullasuyu Wiphala (looks like a low-res colour test pattern).


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