I am familiar with the communities. We have a propensity to judge other cultures from our own lived experiences. A little bit of compassion and empathy can go a long way.

Our flag is too similar to the NZ flag and Australia is too similar to Austria. If we are going to change the flag can we also change the name?

ps it’s APARTHEID not APARTSIDE - do a bit of research if you don’t know - otherwise you come across as someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about…

Someone missed the joke Nice riposte Mr. P

'They' would be speaking Dutch, or German, or Japanese...or just not be around anymore.

Qantas could have put the Aboriginal flag on their aircraft years ago if they wanted to, the recent ownership doesn't really change much. They just would have had to pay a licensing fee to the... wait... nevermind, I think I just answered my own question.

Plenty of compassion, charity not to mention billions of taxpayers dollars have been spent, and what do we have as a result in 2022?
Honestly what do you think the end game here is really?? Are people suggesting we need to install Aboriginal Law over our constitution? Is anyone, including full blooded Aboriginals going back to throwing spears and hunting Kangaroos living naked in the wild? Honestly what is the point of all this?

Take your pick of colonial powers, one of them would have ended up here. Better or worse than the Brits? History would be a pretty good guide on that. Suggest that things are far better for the colonisation than they ever would have been regardless of another colonial power or no 'invasion' at all.

The money spent on indigenous 'issues' is staggering for extremely poor outcomes, an inconvenient truth.

For every indigenous leader wanting more welfare, handouts, land rights etc there is an indigenous leader wanting an end to more welfare, handouts etc.

Things will never change until the level of violence within indigenous communities is acknowledged and addressed, another inconvenient truth for the clowns jumping on the invasion day bandwagon.

Probably just as much as changing the date to any other day on the calendar would.
The true intent of many "change the daters" is to remove any Australian Day Celebration - as they don't believe "we" are worthy of having a day to celebrate.

It actually is an official flag of the country, recognised by the flags act since 1995....

The Aboriginal Flag was designed by Aboriginal artist Harold Thomas in 1971.

The rights to the flag were owned by non Aboriginal company WAM Clothing, who were the licensed owner of the image.

The Federal Government acquired the copyright and the flag is now available freely for all Austlians to use. But it is not our National Flag.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-...omas/100779922

The RSA had two official languages. One side of SAA's aircraft carried English, the other carried Afrikaans. Apart from that, bi
both sides were identica were they not!

What a poor attempt at virtue signalling. Its the usual self righteous crap we’ve come to expect from Karens with nothing better to do.

It appears there is a long way to go? There it is. You’re already there….obviously, and the rest of us who may disagree, have a long way to catch up to you. At least you can be heartened at some progress being made, perhaps we can all grow up to be just like you eh?

I bet you say “correct” when someone says something you agree with. As if it wasn’t the truth until you confirmed it was. Hail Mr Proach o arbiter of truth.

I doubt there has ever been a time where there are more insufferable useful idiots on the planet than there are now. The yawning chasm between their impression of their intellect and the actual is so wide that no amount of moral posturing or preening could hope to fill it.

Wanna know how we know this? The first comment that disagreed with you, you played the race card. Game over Karen.

Didn't Qantas solve racism years ago?

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7bd0b15ee2.png

That took longer than expected.

geeez,
It is very confusing when someone inserts the facts.
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Why shouldn't the Aboriginal flag be recognised internationally?

In your opinion, has the first nation's people quality of life improved or deteriorated since British occupation?

I kinda already like the Blue Ensign, and the Red Ensign, and the lighter RAF Ensign, it even links us back to the language we speak (or should that be spoke).

But we already have an Australian flag...

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....bc6bbbc884.jpg

Dunno why it uses the colours of the Brazilian soccer team though.

If you are referring to the Union Jack as English you might just be offending the Irish and Scottish parts that make up the flag. The Union Jack represents the United Kingdom of England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales, four separate countries each with unique language. The English flag is just the cross of St George. At the time of of the Australian flags creation the United Kingdom included the entire Kingdom of Ireland. So what language should we be spoking to each other? English, Irish, Ulster Scots, Scots Gaelic or Welsh? I personally prefer Welsh, although I hear of late that Urdu is competing for the national language of England.

There's nothing saying additional flags can't be flown on airliners. The most prominent example is the EU flag, which adorns a lot of EU based carriers alongside their national flag. Some Caribbean carriers fly the Caribbean Community flag as well.

Australia's most prominent International Sporting event is the Australian Open, on right now. I can see at the presentation ceremonies they have the Australian Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Flags displayed alongside the Australian flag with equal prominence. So like it or not the Aboriginal and TSI flags are being put on display as equal national flags as symbols of the nation by a lot of private businesses, state or local governments, national sporting teams and private citizens. Tourists to the nation (when they were/will be here) see these two additional flags being used alongside the national flag in a lot of places.

The decision by any Australian airline to place either flag on one of their aircraft (or none at all) is their own decision as they are all private companies, and there's not much anyone who would be opposed to such a move could do to stop them.

Just to be brutally technical the Union Jack only represents the nations of England, Scotland and the whole of Ireland. Northern Ireland and Wales have no representation on that flag. They are the crosses of St George, a 3rd century Roman Emperor's guard, St Patrick, a 5th century Roman/Irish missionary and St Andrew, a 1st century apostle and fisherman in Judea. Absolutely none of them had anything whatsoever to do with the nation of Australia by the way.

I really see no reason why members of the aviation community should not be proportionally dumb as the general population out there, so why should I be surprised.

Well Trolled, very well trolled. Sadly you had way too many bites. Move along now and let us call out the Supreme Leader of Western Korea and ignominious waste of tax payers money to issue millions in RAT for return to school.

Last time I looked Qantas, Rex and Alliance were PUBLIC companies.

I don't usually say "correct", I don't have a consistent response, I might respond with something like: "That is my view" or "That's also my opinion". If I am doing times tables with the grand children and they respond with the answer I agree with, then I will use "correct". By the way when you write "we", are you representing a group of people? I don't agree with everything that you wrote however, thanks for your contribution.

Yes, I meant publicly listed companies answerable to their shareholders. Not Government owned or run companies.

If these airlines painted Aboriginal and TSI flags on their aircraft it would be the shareholders who will ultimately judge those actions.

I remember airlines copping some flack from the usual sources against the Same Sex Marriage campaign in 2017. One even painted a rainbow emblem on one aircraft. They also made a billion dollar profit. I don't think the shareholders cared too much, nor did the traveling public, nor did the employees, because they all didn't walk out in protest.

That's probably what the reaction will be to any painting of Aboriginal and TSI flags on any Australian airliner, after all the usual cries of "Politically Correct Woke Nonsense!" have subsided.

Let's see how long that lasts.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e6c733b818.jpg

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a9e582f140.jpg
Ireland's biggest airline doesn't use the Irish national flag.

The current tail logo is the top picture. The original suggestion for a logo is below, until O'Leary intervened. Spot the difference ?

How dare you/them/ze/zat/slap question my pronouns.

Yes, it does. It uses the national flag of the country of registration, so it puts the Irish national flag beside the registration letters on its Irish (EI-) registered aircraft.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0791bd502c.jpg

Each country has only one National Flag. The Aboriginal Flag represents our Aboriginal people, estimated 864,000 of our 25 million population, or 3.5% of our population. The Torres Strait Flag represents the interests of our 38,700 TI Islanders, or 0.15% of our population.

We also have nine official flags representing each of our States and Territories. How many flags do you think Australia should expect to be recognized internationally? How many flags do you want placarded on the side of Qantas aircraft?

We are proudly a nation with diverse ethnic and cultural heritages, but in all respects internationally Australia is ONE Nation with ONE recognized National flag.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_flag

Mr Proach is either an insufferable tool or has a world leading trolling game.

Well, from your high horse you could perhaps see that they are no longer seen to be running naked around the bush throwing bent sticks at kangaroos.

or, you could’ve said. A silly old lefty fool.

Why do you make that statement.

Finally, an erudite and correct answer to the whole subject. I do wish we had a like button

It is not really a matter of what I want however, in my view I consider it would be appropriate to add the Aboriginal flag in the context of the definition of "aboriginal". From the posts, I am gaining the impression it is viewed as some kind of threat to the national identity.

I don't really understand what a "world leading trolling game" is. Would you explain what it is please?

True tail wheel et al, the current flag is the one you have posted. This does not mean we should not investigate a change from an outdated flag one which has represented a time when the indigenous people were treated badly by our forbearers. People associate Qantas with Australia and by putting the Torres Strait and First Nations flag on the aircraft it will make them familiar with the symbol and what it means to them and me a white second generation Australian who is proud of our indigenous people.
Just a thought.

The Aboriginal flag and the Torres Strait Islander flag both have equal status. It would be quite inappropriate to "add the Aboriginal flag" without also adding the Torres Strait Islander flag.

For every rule, an exception. Since 2009 Bolivia has had two national flags; the red-yellow-green horizontal tricolor with the Bolivian coat of arms in the center, and the southern Qullasuyu Wiphala (looks like a low-res colour test pattern).