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Ascend Charlie 20th Feb 2022 10:15

So, whose head do you want on our coins?
Albo?
Julia?
Dame Edna?

dr dre 20th Feb 2022 10:55


Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie (Post 11186988)
So, whose head do you want on our coins?
Albo?
Julia?
Dame Edna?

One, they’d be far more appropriate than the current foreigner. And let’s be honest when she kicks the bucket we aren’t going to put Big Ears (or his brother!) on our coins are we?

Two, here’s an idea, how about no one? Who says we need a person there, plenty of nation’s notes and coins don’t feature a person, maybe just an outline of Australia or a Coat of Arms or similar? It’s probably going to happen anyway when QEII buys the farm so might as well discuss it now.

AerialPerspective 20th Feb 2022 11:39


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 11186900)
And following on from that I checked the uniforms of the other Australian national teams. Olympic teams, Wallabies, Socceroos, Kookaburras, Matildas, Boomers etc.

Most of them feature the Southern Cross, the Commonwealth Star, the Coat of Arms, but none of them feature any elements that contain the Union Jack. It seems the sporting world moved on from the current National flag a long time ago.

You're completely right. I have noticed this for decades, a decidedly earnest effort to use anything that says Australia but not the flag because it, well, says Britain, despite what apologists who try to pass it off as something else try to say. When it comes down to it, the upper hoist, the canton, in heraldic terms reserved for the symbol of highest honour, contains the flag of another country.

AerialPerspective 20th Feb 2022 11:44


Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie (Post 11186988)
So, whose head do you want on our coins?
Albo?
Julia?
Dame Edna?

That old ridiculous retort, there is no rule that mandates anything on coins. We don't have to have anyone. Just replace the monarch's head with the Coat of Arms. It's the last thing that needs to be considered because it will cost ZERO to achieve. Every coin that is minted has a new image of QEII created, whether it's identical to the previous one or not, because of the way coins are minted (and hint, because the date has to be changed). This way, the cost is zero over and above the current practice because the mint will simply say to the engraver, do Henry Parkes or the Coat of Arms or a kangaroo's arse for all I care. The United States has founding fathers and previous Presidents, Lincoln is on the 1c with the Lincoln Memorial on the other side and that basically follows for other Presidents and non-Presidents such as Franklin when it comes to notes and coins.

QEII doesn't appear on every banknote, in fact, she was potentially going to be removed from the $5. An alternative design was floated with Henry Parkes but it was dropped (probably because we have a conservative government).

Gnadenburg 20th Feb 2022 19:58

The reason the flag hasn’t changed is the gut feeling of the majority is the issue has been hijacked by questionable progressives. You can see here, the wordsmiths using Wikipedia quickly moved on from the difficulties and trauma of indigenous Australians. It was little more than virtue signalling; the rest of us aren’t going to buy “internalised colonialism” having seen the issues first hand and the gut feeling it’s just another progressive agenda that will go nowhere.

If you’ve read this thread please educate yourself on some of the issues thrown right back at those of us who just question why? Understand history, what was going on in the world at the time and try and find accuracy in the subjects such as the Frontier Wars or what young Australians may have fought for. I’m quite shocked having returned to Australia at the complexities of agendas. We have Manchurian Candidates in politics, a flag or indigenous issues they really couldn’t care about, however, if it can break alliances or cohesion they’ll be on to it. Business interests ably exemplified by former politicians advocating not so subtlety for the CCP.

Make a hobby of being a bit more of a historical sleuth and be ready to stand up when the wool is pulled over your eyes. It’s quite frightening having seen the COVID world and the power of social media and still the conventional press.





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