Qantas terminates long haul cabin crew agreement, demands more flexibility
https://www.reuters.com/article/qant...-idINL1N2TZ2W1
If they win this, it may set the tone for other EBA's battle. |
Never waste a crisis. :yuk:
Its as much a threat to every other employee group who will be in negotiations soon, as it is to deal with the International Cabin Crew negotiations now. |
Weren’t the EFA folks hoping to get there EA cancelled to get a pay rise?
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Millions of dollars skimmed away by upper managers while many have lost everything (in some cases mates-permanently) and now QF want to screw their staff down some more. Disgraceful! The end of an airline job as a career Australia is upon us.
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That is a very disturbing article on a number of levels. That suggests the cabin crew would have to remain emergency procedures proficient across multiple aircraft types for less than the current remuneration. If you are continuously changing aircraft types, to maintain safety margins you would have to be continuously re-familiarising with the emergency equipment layout and procedures for each aircraft type which would leave very little spare time for providing ancillary functions such as aisle service.
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Is going back to award wages a pay rise for them?
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Originally Posted by Mr Proach
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That is a very disturbing article on a number of levels. That suggests the cabin crew would have to remain emergency procedures proficient across multiple aircraft types for less than the current remuneration. If you are continuously changing aircraft types, to maintain safety margins you would have to be continuously re-familiarising with the emergency equipment layout and procedures for each aircraft type which would leave very little spare time for providing ancillary functions such as aisle service.
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Maybe the company can show flexibility too by combining all the groups into one. Imagine the cost savings engineering, ground handling, HR, safety departments, managersssss......
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It’s particularly curios to me that an airline bent on safety would be focused so heavily on cost cutting.
I would never suggest a nation wide airline staff strike, that would be inciteful. |
This is laughable. Says EBA that was voted down will allegedly cost (no doubt some pretty loose assumptions being used to bump up the figure) the airline $60m over 4 years. So less than the CEOs salary then?
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Originally Posted by Mr Proach
(Post 11172392)
If you are continuously changing aircraft types, to maintain safety margins you would have to be continuously re-familiarising with the emergency equipment layout and procedures for each aircraft type which would leave very little spare time for providing ancillary functions such as aisle service.
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Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer
(Post 11172401)
This is laughable. Says EBA that was voted down will allegedly cost (no doubt some pretty loose assumptions being used to bump up the figure) the airline $60m over 4 years. So less than the CEOs salary then?
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Wouldn't it be funny if they couldn't find enough Flight Attendants to crew the flights they want to operate?
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Originally Posted by Chris2303
(Post 11172405)
Wouldn't it be funny if they couldn't find enough Flight Attendants to crew the flights they want to operate?
https://qantas.wd3.myworkdayjobs.com...in-Crew_R77479 |
Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer
(Post 11172397)
If the Union were a bit more aware, they should be negotiating a reasonable pay rise on the basis of their members expanded qualifications.
Originally Posted by gordonfvckingramsay
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I would never suggest a nation wide airline staff strike, that would be inciteful. |
Pretty hypocritical of Qantas to say that the current contract’s rostering provisions are inflexible, when they are the ones who put them in place to cut costs.
LH crew used to fly on all LH types (I believe) and then Qantas wanted cheaper crew to fly on the A380. They came up with a very cheap B-scale that all CC on the A380 were covered by. The original LH crew remained on the 767, 330 and 747. Then the 787 came along and again Qantas only wanted cheaper CC on it. The 767 and the 747 have been retired so the original crew are now marooned on the A330. But this was all orchestrated by Qantas to drive down CC salaries, yet Qantas have the gall to say the contract needs to be ripped up due to the very rostering practices they forced into place. Typical disgusting behaviour from Qantas IR. |
Ex AN CC here. We were endorsed on the 767, 737, 727 & A320 it was no big deal.
But at the same time I agree with what Beer Baron said above. Plenty of mates at QF and they were not allowed to go over to the A380 & 787 unless they were happy to get screwed deluxe and accept a new award. |
Plenty of pilots out there saying this couldn’t / wouldn’t happen when the opposition’s pilot EA was up for vote the second time around.
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Originally Posted by Keg
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And a strike would likely be illegal. With damages potentially awarded against those who do strike.
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Originally Posted by gordonfvckingramsay
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Ok, Protected Industrial Action
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