Deck chair shuffle at Network aviation
Hot of the press COO departs Network Aviation for virgin regional airlines !
|
Originally Posted by Harry8434
(Post 11154319)
Hot of the press COO departs Network Aviation for virgin regional airlines !
|
Originally Posted by Ladloy
(Post 11154338)
what is virgin regional?
F100s and 320s I guess that’s a sign they mustn’t see much of a future at NA. Guess that’s also why most of their LWOP pilots from the group will depart when full domestic travel resumes early next year. |
Pushed or ran?
You don’t leave the QF Group when you are at that level unless the offer is too good or you are on the nose. VARA don’t pay that well! Just saying….
|
Originally Posted by ActiveLooker
(Post 11154417)
You don’t leave the QF Group when you are at that level unless the offer is too good or you are on the nose. VARA don’t pay that well! Just saying….
|
You don’t leave the QF Group when you are at that level unless the offer is too good or you are on the nose. VARA don’t pay that well! Just saying…. |
Originally Posted by airdualbleedfault
(Post 11154450)
Wrong actually, VARA have/do pay their pilots and managers significantly better than Notwork, it's not as if he's leaving a cushy mainline job and maybe he doesn't want to be the AOC accountable person when the first white rat creates a smoking hole
|
I wonder what his gardening clause will look like given what’s happened recently with people jumping ship from QF to VA.
|
Don’t shoot the messenger
Originally Posted by airdualbleedfault
(Post 11154450)
Wrong actually, VARA have/do pay their pilots and managers significantly better than Notwork, it's not as if he's leaving a cushy mainline job and maybe he doesn't want to be the AOC accountable person when the first white rat creates a smoking hole
|
Originally Posted by ActiveLooker
(Post 11154455)
Quite snappy there, perhaps it’s hypoxia from the dual bleed fault. Post holders for QF Group Airlines are on QF Executive contract which are far more lucrative than what VA or VARA offer. The working class employees, however, I totally agree. Network pay and conditions are some of the worst in the industry, hence why they can’t attract experienced guys and gals.
|
Originally Posted by EPIRB
(Post 11154683)
Just curious, what does Network pay their pilots?
NETWORK AVIATION PILOTS ENTERPRISE AGREEMENT 2016 $175k for an A320 Captain, not much in the way of additional payments for extra flying, 10 days sick leave, basically no rostering protections, very thin document. No wonder I’ve heard most LWOP pilots are desperate to get back to their original employer once they are able to. Even heard some quit NA and are working at Bunnings until they can get back to mainline. |
|
Even heard some quit NA and are working at Bunnings until they can get back to mainline. |
Originally Posted by Icarus2001
(Post 11154699)
Wow, a pilot would really need to hate the flying to walk away from $175k plus super to work at Bunnings for what, $45k pa?
But have been hearing lots of stories about NA pilots seeking to get out to their original employer, and when looking at how the overall pilot market will go over the next few years it's going to be very difficult to attract employees on those conditions. |
Unless you have an absolute love of flying, why would you become a pilot these days when you can go and do a trade and earn bucket loads more without forking out well over $100K to POSSIBLY get a job that you desire? And without the stresses of checks, medicals, back of the clock work, reduced life expectancy etc. I wouldn't be doing it again.
|
Originally Posted by EPIRB
(Post 11154707)
Unless you have an absolute love of flying, why would you become a pilot these days when you can go and do a trade and earn bucket loads more without forking out well over $100K to POSSIBLY get a job that you desire? And without the stresses of checks, medicals, back of the clock work, reduced life expectancy etc. I wouldn't be doing it again.
To those who will even bother and put up all with that stuff you mention above, they will probably go on to have pretty solid careers with high ball remuneration in the long run, purely for the fact that there will be no pilots really left in 20 years. If these Wild West operators are having crew experience problems now, that’s nothing compared to what’s coming in the long run. Just wait until China and largely the world reopens. If Rick cannot lure quality candidates with the amount of experienced people he has worked with in recent times, they perhaps need to start paying more? Good luck on that front though. |
Originally Posted by ActiveLooker
(Post 11154455)
Quite snappy there, perhaps it’s hypoxia from the dual bleed fault. Post holders for QF Group Airlines are on QF Executive contract which are far more lucrative than what VA or VARA offer. The working class employees, however, I totally agree. Network pay and conditions are some of the worst in the industry, hence why they can’t attract experienced guys and gals.
Sorry precious, no offence intended :} I think we'll have to agree to disagree as I don't honestly know what they're paying NM, nor do you, I just assumed that as they pay other senior post holders (HOFO, HOTAC ETC) rubbish money that they would pay the most senior post holder rubbish as well. That said I wouldn't mind betting he's not on the same coin as his equal in QF or even Jetstar, Eastern/Sunstate. |
Originally Posted by dr dre
(Post 11154702)
I think it had more to do with NA demanding that pilot sign an extension well into next year, and then that pilot deciding they'd rather come back to mainline in a few months. Or so I'm told. Also may have been an FO on closer to $100k, so the pay gap may not have been that much. But it's just a rumour.
But have been hearing lots of stories about NA pilots seeking to get out to their original employer, and when looking at how the overall pilot market will go over the next few years it's going to be very difficult to attract employees on those conditions. That’s not a rumour. I know for a fact People have had a gutful and resigned to see out their LWOP. |
I would have thought that with the current shortage of 787 SOs, anyone on LWOP would be welcomed back into Mainline with open arms…no need to work at Bunnings
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 17:25. |
Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.