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lee_apromise 12th Sep 2021 23:49


Originally Posted by LostWanderer (Post 11110176)
Also I still canít see even a single record online (where it actually shows E3 Visas and who has sponsored it) of a single person who has flowed to AA or the any major on an E3, basically you wonít be flowing over if you are on the E3 Visa regardless of what you are told by any pilot on here. They are not and have not ever been in the business of sponsoring temporary workers as pilots at any major airline there.
If you have dual citizenship or a greencard thatís a different story.

LCA record indicates E-3 now at Frontier, Spirit, National and Atlas. Super rare though.

Hudson5 13th Sep 2021 02:48


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11110032)
Most donít come back. The promotion and fleet opportunities over there starting from the RJ is quite attractive.

RJ then over to DL or AA Mainline. New fleets and attractive remuneration. They actually promote succession planning. I wish I was young again.

Why the heck any GA girl or lad would hang around down under is beyond me.

100% agree. If you can, get to the USA, land of opportunity.
Aviation recruitment will be stuffed here in Oz for years.

A lot of overseas Crew have come back and established their families back in Schools etc.
Do you think theyíll want to uproot family again and head back to HK, Middle East etc etc. No

Thus, is why a GA job gets 500+ applications!



AAGpilot 13th Sep 2021 05:18


Originally Posted by Kenny (Post 11110116)
Because, itís not home and itís only natural to want to live where things simply ďmake senseĒ. Iíve been here over 20 years, apart from a stint back at VOz and while the options in the US for pilots are, for obvious reasons better, youíll always be a foreigner. For some thatís easier to handle, than it is for others. As an Aussie though, you should find youíll cop a lot less grief form the majority of Americans than you would coming from most other countries. Australians and Americans share a lot more in common than the sh!t we give each other, would suggest.

Be respectful, donít be the whiny, pedantic, anally retentive Aussie and appreciate the US for its good qualities and you can have an amazing life here.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by youíll always be a foreigner? This country (US) is made up of foreigners. If you embrace American values, are an overall cool person to be around, youíll be treated as American as apple pie. If youíre going to constantly complain about our country, tell us how the government pays for your healthcare back home etc etc then yup, you may be made to feel like a foreigner by some. Now move to NY or LA, and anti-American rhetoric will have you fitting right in.

Maximum Thrust 13th Sep 2021 11:04


Originally Posted by Hudson5 (Post 11110311)
100% agree. If you can, get to the USA, land of opportunity.
Aviation recruitment will be stuffed here in Oz for years.

A lot of overseas Crew have come back and established their families back in Schools etc.
Do you think theyíll want to uproot family again and head back to HK, Middle East etc etc. No

Thus, is why a GA job gets 500+ applications!


GA job gets 500+ applications because there are 3 jobs, 2 of which have already been promised to family and friends, and 15,000 applicants competing for the last one.

Maximum Thrust 13th Sep 2021 11:32

Can you please share a link to LCA records data? Cheers.

umop apisdn 13th Sep 2021 14:52


Originally Posted by LostWanderer (Post 11110176)

Also I still canít see even a single record online (where it actually shows E3 Visas and who has sponsored it) of a single person who has flowed to AA or the any major on an E3, basically you wonít be flowing over if you are on the E3 Visa regardless of what you are told by any pilot on here. They are not and have not ever been in the business of sponsoring temporary workers as pilots at any major airline there.
If you have dual citizenship or a greencard thatís a different story.

I think this is also untested, as there are no Australians at any AA wholly owned regionals who have enough seniority to flow, yet. I think you'd have rocks in your head if you are planning your life around flowing to AA on an E3, but the is no proof either way.

Having said that, odds are kind of on your side for finding your way into a green card before your flow number comes up, even more so if you are single.

The USA might have its problems but it is undoubetedly the bst place in the world to be a pilot. With early retirements that just went out at all the legacies and an entire year of no one taking flying lessons, the shortage will be back in full swing at every level very soon.

HLYtaste 13th Sep 2021 14:52


Originally Posted by Tinstaafl (Post 11109876)
During upgrade class yesterday we were told by the head of ground training that PSA Airlines is now accepting applications from overseas pilots. He wasn't very clear if they're sponsoring visas, but he told me to get my Oz compatriots over here in droves. PSA wants as many pilots as they can get, for themselves and to eventually flow to AA. They want to start 2 newhire classes every two weeks, each with 30 pilots.

Large bonuses now being offered when you upgrade and eventually go to AA, totalling up to $150,000. $30k when you upgrade + $70k when you go to AA + an extra $25k when you go for each year where you're available for 900 hours of work for (maximum of two years). 900 hours is the min guarantee per month anyway so easily achieved just by being on reserve, and includes other qualifying activities such as annual leave/vacation etc.

So if anyone wants to come let me know before you apply and I'll put a recommendation in, and do what I can to help.

Hi there your inbox is full so ill write you here.

im an spaniard flying A320 in europe, i have level 6 english and Us commercial license ( also cfii) totalling about 2000 hours. Also college studies in a major in business. Im interested in flying for a US regional with the opportunity of flowing into a major and read your post and im highly interested.

please any help and info would be greatly appreciated. I can chat on email, facebook, whatsapp or any venue that suits you best.
Unlike Some people supporting other countries draconian measures whie at the same time criticizing a free country like the USA i would deeply appreciate the opportunity or establishing a life in that awesome country

thanks


havick 13th Sep 2021 16:56


Originally Posted by HLYtaste (Post 11110581)
Hi there your inbox is full so ill write you here.

im an spaniard flying A320 in europe, i have level 6 english and Us commercial license ( also cfii) totalling about 2000 hours. Also college studies in a major in business. Im interested in flying for a US regional with the opportunity of flowing into a major and read your post and im highly interested.

please any help and info would be greatly appreciated. Unlike Some people supporting other countries draconian measures whie at the same time criticizing a free country like the us i would deeply appreciate the opportunity or establishing a life in that awesome country

thanks

Unless you have a US green card, or are an Australian citizen (ie ability to get an E3 visa), thereís no path for you to work in the usa (at the moment).

kwaralala 13th Sep 2021 18:37


Originally Posted by Tinstaafl (Post 11109876)
During upgrade class yesterday we were told by the head of ground training that PSA Airlines is now accepting applications from overseas pilots. He wasn't very clear if they're sponsoring visas, but he told me to get my Oz compatriots over here in droves. PSA wants as many pilots as they can get, for themselves and to eventually flow to AA. They want to start 2 newhire classes every two weeks, each with 30 pilots.

So if anyone wants to come let me know before you apply and I'll put a recommendation in, and do what I can to help.


Same, can't send you a PM. Will be very helpful if you could send one across to me, and we could discuss there, if possible.

Thanks.

Kenny 13th Sep 2021 23:12


Originally Posted by AAGpilot (Post 11110328)
Can you elaborate on what you mean by youíll always be a foreigner? This country (US) is made up of foreigners. If you embrace American values, are an overall cool person to be around, youíll be treated as American as apple pie. If youíre going to constantly complain about our country, tell us how the government pays for your healthcare back home etc etc then yup, you may be made to feel like a foreigner by some. Now move to NY or LA, and anti-American rhetoric will have you fitting right in.

AAG,

I think you may have got the wrong end of the stick, as far as my comment is concerned. It wasn't in any way meant to be anti-American and I'm pretty sure anyone who has lived in another country that isn't originally their "own" understands what I meant by it.

Yes, the US&A is a proud country made up of immigrants, just like Australia BUT I'm simply basing this on my own personal experience of having lived here, as I said, for over 20 years. There are little, almost insignificant things and some far bigger. The small range from why can't I get decent bacon or bread to how on earth can anyone in their right mind enjoy PBJ sandwiches. I think most Americans would say the same of vegemite sandwiches, which are a gift from God, as far as I'm concerned. The fact that if I pronounce tomato like tomato and not tomAYto, I get a blank stare and the really odd one; If I don't pronounce my own name the American way, people think it's something completely different. Nothing is perfect and as I said these are all small things that just remind you every so often, it's not your birth country. It doesn't in any way mean I don't appreciate the US for all the good contained within its shores; I have met some of the most intelligent, generous, and kind people here, and it's given me an opportunity that simply no other country can provide.

Hopefully, you understand the context in which I meant my comment to be taken.



AAGpilot 13th Sep 2021 23:36


Originally Posted by Kenny (Post 11110761)
AAG,

I think you may have got the wrong end of the stick, as far as my comment is concerned. It wasn't in any way meant to be anti-American and I'm pretty sure anyone who has lived in another country that isn't originally their "own" understands what I meant by it.

Yes, the US&A is a proud country made up of immigrants, just like Australia BUT I'm simply basing this on my own personal experience of having lived here, as I said, for over 20 years. There are little, almost insignificant things and some far bigger. The small range from why can't I get decent bacon or bread to how on earth can anyone in their right mind enjoy PBJ sandwiches. I think most Americans would say the same of vegemite sandwiches, which are a gift from God, as far as I'm concerned. The fact that if I pronounce tomato like tomato and not tomAYto, I get a blank stare and the really odd one; If I don't pronounce my own name the American way, people think it's something completely different. Nothing is perfect and as I said these are all small things that just remind you every so often, it's not your birth country. It doesn't in any way mean I don't appreciate the US for all the good contained within its shores; I have met some of the most intelligent, generous, and kind people here, and it's given me an opportunity that simply no other country can provide.

Hopefully, you understand the context in which I meant my comment to be taken.

I think my post may have come off as defensive. I assure you I didnít intend it that way. Itís difficult to convey tone through text. I was sincerely curious what you meant and you answered my question. I can see how spending your formative years in one country then moving to another can have one missing home.

Kenny 13th Sep 2021 23:48

It did, a bit but it's all good mate. :ok:

Rbwoonton 14th Sep 2021 04:25

Hey mate can I get in on this? Flick me through a PM when you have time! Thanks mate!

KBNA 14th Sep 2021 06:01

Hi Tinstaafl - I tried sending you a PM but it said your inbox capacity has been exceeded.

Has PSA officially started hiring Aussies on the E3? There website doesn't mention it

havick 14th Sep 2021 08:27

Mods, can we please roll this thread into the main US regional thread to combine all the info?

Tinstaafl 14th Sep 2021 20:21

To everyone that responded and PM'd me: My inbox got flooded. I'm right in the middle of upgrade so I don't have time to deal with that right now. I'll get on to it when I can. Meanwhile I spoke with the the Director of Ground Training again who said for people to contact him with questions. He's ok'd me passing on his email, but I'm hesitant to broadcast it in the open so give me some time to clear my inbox.

It sounds to me that they're still working out the details, what level of support or sponsorship they want or need to provide. It's likely to vary depending on how easy or hard for them it is, and at what cost. For example, if you already have an FAA ATP and the ability to work here then obviously that's in 'apply here right now' category. Similarly if you have an FAA Commercial with ATP mins. But if you have some combination of no visa/greencard + FAA Cert/ licence level and need to convert he wouldn't tell me.

Like I said, it sounds like they're still figuring things out, driven by orders from above to recruit like crazy.

kungfu panda 14th Sep 2021 21:19

You need a bachelors degree to get an E3?

cLeArIcE 15th Sep 2021 02:54


Originally Posted by Kenny (Post 11110761)
AAG,

I'm pretty sure anyone who has lived in another country that isn't originally their "own" understands what I meant by it.

Yes, the US&A is a proud country made up of immigrants, just like Australia BUT I'm simply basing this on my own personal experience of having lived here, as I said, for over 20 years. There are little, almost insignificant things and some far bigger. The small range from why can't I get decent bacon or bread to how on earth can anyone in their right mind enjoy PBJ sandwiches. I think most Americans would say the same of vegemite sandwiches, which are a gift from God, as far as I'm concerned. The fact that if I pronounce tomato like tomato and not tomAYto, I get a blank stare and the really odd one; If I don't pronounce my own name the American way, people think it's something completely different. Nothing is perfect and as I said these are all small things that just remind you every so often, it's not your birth country. It doesn't in any way mean I don't appreciate the US for all the good contained within its shores; I have met some of the most intelligent, generous, and kind people here, and it's given me an opportunity that simply no other country can provide.

Hopefully, you understand the context in which I meant my comment to be taken.

Haha glad it wasn't just me. I Would literally loose my mind over how disgusting bread and bacon was over there. But, if I see any brisket or pulled pork etc on menu in Aus, I know it won't compare to those Kanas City over nights...
To anyone thinking about it, it will never feel 100% like home but,
​​​​​​ if you are sitting on the fence, just do it. Great experience that you'll never get in Aus. Just have an end plan that doesn't involve flow through or majors. You will learn to fly from real pilots, in real weather, with real terrain and have fun doing it. Unfortunately, It will make the oztranaughts more unbareable if you come back :yuk:

Thumb War 15th Sep 2021 09:24


Originally Posted by cLeArIcE (Post 11111331)
Unfortunately, It will make the oztranaughts more unbareable if you come back :yuk:

Thatís a common complaint of many returning expats. Australia is flat, with pretty benign weather and uncomplicated airspace/approach procedures, yet those oztronaughts find a way to overcomplicate it!

havick 15th Sep 2021 12:32


Originally Posted by kungfu panda (Post 11111242)
You need a bachelors degree to get an E3?

No. Plenty of E3ís currently flying around the US without a degree.


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