"Virgin cabin crew vote Yes to enterprise deal"
Virgin cabin crew vote Yes to enterprise deal: https://www.twu.com.au/press/virgin-...terprise-deal/
"Virgin cabin crew have overwhelmingly voted up an enterprise agreement, with 89% passing the deal by a margin of 84%. The vote follows five agreements approved by Virgin workers last year, with the airline yet to finalise a deal with its pilots." |
Sold their Souls to Bain is how it should read...
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Was this the “agreement” that was forced upon the FA’s after the FWC threatened them with the award should they continue their push for better pay and conditions? The award in some areas was a significant reduction in terms.
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Just for interest did my tax last week with a mob who look after quite a lot of aviation employees, chatting with the accountant about things he made the unsolicited comment that Virgin will be gone in 2 years.
I hope he's wrong for the sake of all involved but with Bain's #1 priority to make money (and not to run an airline, who'd a thunk!) where Bain/Virgin will be in two years time anyone's guess. |
Originally Posted by gordonfvckingramsay
(Post 11037665)
Was this the “agreement” that was forced upon the FA’s after the FWC threatened them with the award should they continue their push for better pay and conditions? The award in some areas was a significant reduction in terms.
- Negotiations going for protracted period (circa 18-24 months) - Unions endorse first deal - Cabin crew vote down first deal - Unions endorse second deal - FWC outlines that bargaining can’t go on forever - employee representatives are saying vote yes, outline to crew that company would have strong case to terminate agreement and inform employees that deal is significantly better than award - 85% of workforce vote, of which 80ish% vote yes |
Already read about this in my QF “ITN” daily feed:ok:
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Originally Posted by gordonfvckingramsay
(Post 11037665)
Was this the “agreement” that was forced upon the FA’s after the FWC threatened them with the award should they continue their push for better pay and conditions? The award in some areas was a significant reduction in terms.
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Originally Posted by greenslopes
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It wasn't actually the FWC. What it was , was an opinion from a former employee of FWC. The opinion was paid for by BAIN and the CC took the bait.
I will see if it can be attached to my post. Not that I am disagreeing with you. I think what the FWC did was pretty crap all round. |
Originally Posted by galdian
(Post 11037672)
...chatting with the accountant about things he made the unsolicited comment that Virgin will be gone in 2 years.
Max. |
Making money won't be an issue, they will make ****loads
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Yes Vote
The high yes vote was partly due to FWC statement but also due to the agreement being reasonable when all things considered.
The end result became reasonable with added protections and clauses throughout, including the much wanted improvement for trip protections. Total roster hours increasing only 4 hours (1 hour a week) with overtime structure changes. Pay freeze for one year with 2% increase after this with a 2 year agreement. Not the best result but not a bad result also and many crew surprised it wasn't as bad as original no vote. Despite some losses, but decent still when compared with Qantas (especially new hires), Jetstar Rex conditions. |
Originally Posted by Colonel_Klink
(Post 11037674)
The FWC only ‘threatened’ them with that because on both occasions the flight attendant unions endorsed the deal, which is probably fair enough:
- Negotiations going for protracted period (circa 18-24 months) - Unions endorse first deal - Cabin crew vote down first deal - Unions endorse second deal - FWC outlines that bargaining can’t go on forever - employee representatives are saying vote yes, outline to crew that company would have strong case to terminate agreement and inform employees that deal is significantly better than award - 85% of workforce vote, of which 80ish% vote yes |
Not saying it was a good deal, far from it. But a pay freeze is noted. Miss JH wants flight crew to take a 27% pay CUT, based on minimum guaranteed hours.
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