QF Losses
Qantas have just announced a $1.08 Billion dollar loss in the last 6 months .
That's a hell of a lot of money but they reckon they still have $4 billion to tide them over. Nice to have a little nest egg to fall back on. This disastrous Covid bug sure has played havoc with a lot of balance sheets!!! |
Reading the ASX seems if domestic borders remained open QF group would be making a squillion. 70% decline in revenue and QF (domestic) QLink and JQ were generating positive cash flow JQ seeing 250,000 booking in Novemebr. Then there is the freight which is going off. International, well thats obvious outcome.
Once consumer confidence returns I think QF group will drown out any competitor. |
Originally Posted by SHVC
(Post 10997113)
Reading the ASX seems if domestic borders remained open QF group would be making a squillion. 70% decline in revenue and QF (domestic) QLink and JQ were generating positive cash flow JQ seeing 250,000 booking in Novemebr. Then there is the freight which is going off. International, well thats obvious outcome.
Once consumer confidence returns I think QF group will drown out any competitor. But I know more than a few people who are sick of Alan/QF announcing "International travel will resume on date X!" to great media fanfare then as it has been the last, what is it now...two times?...zip...nada...no bueno. And this is after taking punters hard earned dollars on bookings in many cases. I still suspect towards mid 2022 will be the absolute earliest customer confidence really starts to return and good things begin to happen with international traffic. Til then a realist can only expect plenty more nasty financial losses are still coming for the group. |
A lot of that stuff about dates resuming flying is about ‘signalling’ to the government and to keep the pressure on them. Perhaps even to generate an expectation in the community that they’ll be travelling soon so that if the government says ‘no’, people power will start to put pressure on them.
I love AJ’s optimism but ‘crazy brave’ is how I would describe the time frame! |
The market doesn’t seem too worried about it all. Share price up 4% this morning. Add to that this article published yesterday about similar share price rises earlier in the week:
Why did Qantas (ASX:QAN) shares soar 4% on Tuesday? |
I think AJ is doing a good job keeping pressure on the gov. Best airline CEO in Australia at the moment I’m sure there are a lot of stood down pilots that will disagree, but the important thing you should have a job still in 2022
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Originally Posted by dr dre
(Post 10997143)
The market doesn’t seem too worried about it all. Share price up 4% this morning. Add to that this article published yesterday about similar share price rises earlier in the week:
Why did Qantas (ASX:QAN) shares soar 4% on Tuesday? |
I don't think we have seen the full extent of redundancies at any Airline. We are not through this crisis and we have more cuts to come I am sure.
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Originally Posted by Ollie Onion
(Post 10997170)
I don't think we have seen the full extent of redundancies at any Airline. We are not through this crisis and we have more cuts to come I am sure.
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Where from? Head office has been cleaned out and is extremely lean. Cabin crew have been asked to pay back their voluntary redundancies and rejoin the airline. Don’t think there’s too much left to cut without considerably shrinking the airline.
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Oh dear, I wonder if Mr Joyce has seen this.
Summer holidays hang in the balance after the World Health Organisation urged against using vaccine passports to facilitate international travel. It said proof of a jab should not be required because there remain 'critical unknowns regarding the efficacy of vaccination in reducing transmission'. The WHO added that inoculated passengers should not be able to sidestep existing travel restrictions designed to reduce Covid. Setting out the WHO stance, the interim position paper states: 'At the present time, it is WHO's position that national authorities and conveyance operators should not introduce requirements of proof of COVID-19 vaccination for international travel as a condition for departure or entry.'It is a fresh blow for both holidaymakers and tourism bosses hoping vaccine passports will pave the way for overseas trips. That people should be mandated to have a vaccine to enjoy greater freedom is a politically divisive issue being fought out in national capitals. The WHO's paper also says: 'National authorities should choose public health interventions that least infringe on individual freedom of movement.' |
Originally Posted by Ollie Onion
(Post 10997170)
I don't think we have seen the full extent of redundancies at any Airline. We are not through this crisis and we have more cuts to come I am sure.
Scoot sacked all the cadets. Local cadets got the boot and Aussie perm residents stayed. Bring the cadets back mid decade. |
Originally Posted by wheels_down
(Post 10997206)
Jetstar 787 operation and all Jetstar Cadets?
Scoot sacked all the cadets. Local cadets got the boot and Aussie perm residents stayed. Bring the cadets back mid decade. |
Originally Posted by Ollie Onion
(Post 10997170)
I don't think we have seen the full extent of redundancies at any Airline. We are not through this crisis and we have more cuts to come I am sure.
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Cadets last in, first out. Sorry but everyone feels the same. They get the fast tracked way in, they get the fast tracked way out.
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Originally Posted by wheels_down
(Post 10997209)
Cadets last in, first out. Sorry but everyone feels the same. They get the fast tracked way in, they get the fast tracked way out.
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Not what happened at Scoot, first to go were foreign pilots on work visas , then Singaporean PRs , then likely Malaysian citizens
, objective to protect Singaporean citizens Not looking great for Australian SOs but at QF at least an extensive warning was given & an option to avoid redundancies was available to all SOs |
Originally Posted by Barrt3344
(Post 10997210)
Or again you could simply go with what the EBA states. That is what the majority of the pilot group voted in.
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Originally Posted by Foxxster
(Post 10997201)
Oh dear, I wonder if Mr Joyce has seen this.
Summer holidays hang in the balance after the World Health Organisation urged against using vaccine passports to facilitate international travel. It said proof of a jab should not be required because there remain 'critical unknowns regarding the efficacy of vaccination in reducing transmission'. The WHO added that inoculated passengers should not be able to sidestep existing travel restrictions designed to reduce Covid. Setting out the WHO stance, the interim position paper states: 'At the present time, it is WHO's position that national authorities and conveyance operators should not introduce requirements of proof of COVID-19 vaccination for international travel as a condition for departure or entry.'It is a fresh blow for both holidaymakers and tourism bosses hoping vaccine passports will pave the way for overseas trips. That people should be mandated to have a vaccine to enjoy greater freedom is a politically divisive issue being fought out in national capitals. The WHO's paper also says: 'National authorities should choose public health interventions that least infringe on individual freedom of movement.' |
Originally Posted by Barrt3344
(Post 10997210)
Or again you could simply go with what the EBA states. That is what the majority of the pilot group voted in.
What went on at Scoot (Cadets) and Tiger (Airbus specific) most certainly could play out here. |
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