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Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_Er_Was
(Post 10972335)
Also a major saving part of the business of those few airlines flying capped pax numbers into Aus is carrying decent numbers out on the return trip, plus a belly full of freight. If they have to arrive at a deserted location to drop off those arriving pax, where do the outbound pax and freight come from? If you expect them to then continue on to their original destination empty...?
If the solution is to expect outbound pax to all fly domestically to that same isolated airfield to await their outward connection, you have another problem of dealing with those passengers as well. My argument has always been shouldn't be up to airlines. The incoming for quarantine should be coming in on charter planes, people should be going through in blocks everyone starts the quarantine at the same time everyone ends at same time, cleaning / maintainance gets done, possibly new shift of staff come in and when everything is ready new passengers come |
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So they were trying to call Aus bluff thinking they would offer them cash to keep operating here and beg them to stay. Haha is all I say what will happen to all the additional work QF got out of this!
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From the above article regarding ek crew.
With the latest adjustments, these tests will be administered in their homes, and our crew will also observe self-quarantine in their homes from the moment of testing until their flight." Still doesn’t come within a bulls roar of what Qantas crew have to do to manage and meet Australian state and federal requirements. Here’s some examples from Queensland requirements...... Domestic crew who in the last 14 days have travelled on a domestic flight with international air crew who have been overseas in the last 14 days must quarantine on arrival to Queensland. Queensland resident international crew must quarantine at their home residence until: o their next international work trip which departs from the port where they are quarantining and does not require interstate travel prior to commencing; or o until 14 days have passed from their date of arrival in Queensland, whichever is shorter. so I do feel for the crew who landed in Melbourne, went to the government hotel for 5 days and then got a freighter to their home base and were met by qld officials who said welcome, have another 14 days of house arrest. For ek to whinge about their complexities of operating to Australia, nah sorry, the home team has a far more arduous issue to deal with. |
Originally Posted by hotnhigh
(Post 10973048)
From the above article regarding ek crew.
With the latest adjustments, these tests will be administered in their homes, and our crew will also observe self-quarantine in their homes from the moment of testing until their flight." Still doesn’t come within a bulls roar of what Qantas crew have to do to manage and meet Australian state and federal requirements. Here’s some examples from Queensland requirements...... Domestic crew who in the last 14 days have travelled on a domestic flight with international air crew who have been overseas in the last 14 days must quarantine on arrival to Queensland. Queensland resident international crew must quarantine at their home residence until: o their next international work trip which departs from the port where they are quarantining and does not require interstate travel prior to commencing; or o until 14 days have passed from their date of arrival in Queensland, whichever is shorter. so I do feel for the crew who landed in Melbourne, went to the government hotel for 5 days and then got a freighter to their home base and were met by qld officials who said welcome, have another 14 days of house arrest. For ek to whinge about their complexities of operating to Australia, nah sorry, the home team has a far more arduous issue to deal with. looks like they tried to get away with it Scott free. |
Originally Posted by Climb150
(Post 10971665)
I don't know of one accommodation block that has been demolished on any active base in the last 20 years.
As for infantry and artillery doing their day jobs, are we off fighting any conflicts at the moment? No, most military people are training all the time which is what they do when not overseas. As none of our military (apart from navy) is going anywhere anytime soon, maybe they can be utilized somewhere else? I will admit most military accommodation is pretty basic but hardly any still have shared bathrooms and wouldn't require much to get up to standard. Friends of mine who finally got home after having numerous flights cancelled, said they would have done quarantine in a tent if that was what's required. Mate - I do not know where you have been living; however, most if not every major Base in Australia has undergone redevelopment over the past few years and nearly every one of those accommodation blocks you mention have been demolished. What 'transit blocks' remain do indeed have shared ablutions which would go down a treat don't you think! As for the ADF (it is more than just Infantry and Artillery you know) are now under warning to deploy in support during the current High Risk Weather Season leaving minimal feet on the ground to undertake any other duties. Let me speak to anyone who is willing to spend 14 days in a canvas tent with minimal amenities during mid/high thirties and above temps. |
Originally Posted by George Glass
(Post 10970125)
an.other
Wow ! Where did you ever get the idea that the Australian Government has the obligation to extract you from an unfavourable position you entered into of your own free will ? Or that Qantas has an obligation to run operations at a loss to salvage you ? There has been a weird idea that has developed over the last 30 years or so that the Government and DFAT are there to rescue Australian citizens from all threats and privations that the might encounter. They are not and they cannot. OK chum, what are babbling on about? Which part of "no odds to me" suggests I want rescuing from anything? Pure nonsense and kindly don't twist my words to misrepresent them. By the way, the person who it would be odds to is back in intensive care, in an induced coma. But that is off shore, so doesn't show up in the government stats, which reassure unenquiring minds everything is great. |
Can we not get back to the title of the thread. If you want to rant and rave over what QF and the Government should and should not be doing with Expats, suggest you migrate over to Facebook and Twitter etc to feed your need.
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Well EK flights are back on so thread closed!
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Originally Posted by Climb150
(Post 10974806)
Well EK flights are back on so thread closed!
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Originally Posted by rattman
(Post 10972347)
My argument has always been shouldn't be up to airlines. The incoming for quarantine should be coming in on charter planes, people should be going through in blocks everyone starts the quarantine at the same time everyone ends at same time, cleaning / maintainance gets done, possibly new shift of staff come in and when everything is ready new passengers come
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