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compressor stall 2nd Jan 2021 07:04


Originally Posted by Walking Ballast (Post 10958888)

Anyone know where Stay is at the moment?

i believe he is at Casey.

Walking Ballast 2nd Jan 2021 08:08

Well travelled that pooch 🤣🤣🤣

compressor stall 2nd Jan 2021 08:54

Yep. I took him to Syowa some years ago.

KRUSTY 34 2nd Jan 2021 09:04

I wouldn’t be too concerned.

A map of the new Western Sydney airport was on the wall of the flying school where I was leaning to fly in my early twenties.

I retired last year!

industry insider 2nd Jan 2021 09:46

Australopithecus:


And so what? Even if all the major powers wanted in, its far less than the size of a suburban mall in an entire continent..
Have you been there? Regardless of The Guardian's piece, its really very pristine and unspoiled except for the current small footprints occupied by the bases. Nothing wrong with using ice runways in the season. No need to fill the place with concrete.


Walking Ballast 2nd Jan 2021 09:56

Somewhere I have a picture of Stay and I fishing off the wharf at Casey.... with the AA in the background.... Summer 07/08.

alfaman 2nd Jan 2021 09:56


Originally Posted by TBM-Legend (Post 10958812)
If you're from the UK I'd say mind your own business. Concentrate on how not to manage CV19....

1) What happens in Antarctica is everyone's business, as defined by the Antarctic Treaty System.
2) Not everything revolves around Covid 19.
3) You appreciate that Pprune originated in the UK, so the same "mind your own..." could be directed at you...

Square Bear 2nd Jan 2021 10:03


Australia criticised for Antarctica airport plan


Australia is the whipping dog of the whole world...whatever as a country it dose is criticised...and like a kick dog the population seems to want the Governments to make subservient compliance.

Country self esteem zilch..until we are winning gold in the Olympic Pool.

Hamsterminator 2nd Jan 2021 10:41

The problem with this is that it is very obviously forward planning for further development. If, in 30-50 years we do start seeing the Ice retreating (this isn't just something that will happen, it has already happened) then we are looking at a resource rich environment for pillaging. Trump already accidentally revealed the US ambition to mine in Iceland, it's no surprise that other governments have the same ambitions. Personally, I find the idea totally abhorrent.

The real impact of humans on the planet isn't a 2-3 degree warming. The problem is that there is not an inch of the surface that isn't being touched by our industry. Plastic in the ocean trenches, plastic on Everest, particulates on the poles, in every stream, in every animal, and most recently discovered- micro plastic in unborn human foetuses. Forget CO2- it's unchecked expansion that is the real culprit. This should be resisted with every millimetre of moral fibre by anyone who values dying in a world remotely similar to the one they were born into.

megan 2nd Jan 2021 12:03


it's unchecked expansion that is the real culprit
:ok: CO2 is not our problem in reality, over population and desecration of our flora and fauna is.

neville_nobody 2nd Jan 2021 12:44


The problem with this is that it is very obviously forward planning for further development. If, in 30-50 years we do start seeing the Ice retreating (this isn't just something that will happen, it has already happened) then we are looking at a resource rich environment for pillaging. Trump already accidentally revealed the US ambition to mine in Iceland, it's no surprise that other governments have the same ambitions. Personally, I find the idea totally abhorrent.

The real impact of humans on the planet isn't a 2-3 degree warming. The problem is that there is not an inch of the surface that isn't being touched by our industry. Plastic in the ocean trenches, plastic on Everest, particulates on the poles, in every stream, in every animal, and most recently discovered- micro plastic in unborn human foetuses. Forget CO2- it's unchecked expansion that is the real culprit. This should be resisted with every millimetre of moral fibre by anyone who values dying in a world remotely similar to the one they were born into.
Yeah sure. Go explain that to the Chinese and see what they think. Whilst the West is all worried about Global Warming the Chinese are busy getting on with business. If there happens to be any sort of Natural Resources in Antarctica you can bet your bottom dollar China will be in there mining it.

Always amazes me how all these Greeny type organizations only seem to protest Western Free Democracies.

tdracer 2nd Jan 2021 16:06


Originally Posted by neville_nobody (Post 10959131)
Always amazes me how all these Greeny type organizations only seem to protest Western Free Democracies.

That's because they are smart enough to know what will happen to them if they protest in Beijing or Shanghai...
Not smart perhaps, but smart enough :rolleyes:

grizzled 2nd Jan 2021 18:46


Originally Posted by Hamsterminator (Post 10959051)
Forget CO2- it's unchecked expansion that is the real culprit.

Hear, Hear!

Paragraph377 2nd Jan 2021 22:41

The world is on a slippery slope to destruction anyway so who cares what the Capitalists and war hungry Governments intent to do out in the ice fields in 50 years time. Most posters here on PPrune will be dead and long gone and our future generations will have been charred to a crisp in a nuclear holocaust.

With that thought ‘happy 2021’!!!

MickG0105 3rd Jan 2021 06:47


Originally Posted by Walking Ballast (Post 10958888)
Mick - there are actually 37 buildings at the Station, and they are registered on the Register of the National Estate...... back in 1999 or 2000 i think.

37, well there you go. Thanks for the link with that info.

compressor stall 3rd Jan 2021 07:28

https://www.antarctica.gov.au/news/2...ctic-stations/

Nothing to do with the runway. scroll to 50s for Davis before and after the revamp.

Rwy in Sight 3rd Jan 2021 08:56

We had a taste on what our world will be like if hard-core environmentalist get their way during the last few months and most of us shouldn't appreciate it much(income and occupation wise). The way forward is not to impose restrictions on the life style of the majority of the people but facilitate the adoption of sound environmental principles. In my city there are plenty of avenues where authorities are completely unable or unwilling to install and maintain a "green wave" so cars came to a halt at every traffic light only to start again after a few seconds - and the only way to beat that system is to drive at a dangerously high speed. So fuel consumptions and emissions going up because a lazy state employee don't do its job properly. Instead the state is looking for ways to ban the cars.

I think it is easy to combine expansion with environmental protection it just requires more effort from lazy bureaucrats and governments.

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 4th Jan 2021 11:44


It'll need not only ATC and rescue and fire fighting services,
How often and how many aircraft at a time do they think they'll get there? Those ATC and Firies better have interesting hobbies.

Ex FSO GRIFFO 5th Jan 2021 05:34

I can almost hear it now........... "A B ****tybags, Clearance not available due 'its my coffeeeee break"................

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Seabreeze 20th Jan 2021 08:28

New Antarctic Division Director was previously CEO Bankstown Airport. Always wanted to have a longer runway and jet ops......... SB


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