How many pilots are out of work in Australia?
I know it's a sensitive subject but I am trying to get some numbers on how many people are still flying at Qantas, Jetstar, Virgin, Qlink etc?
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Originally Posted by Climb150
(Post 10924206)
I know it's a sensitive subject but I am trying to get some numbers on how many people are still flying at Qantas, Jetstar, Virgin, Qlink etc?
Just a guess, but roughly 10% retired/redundant, maybe 15-20% flying but minimal hours & 75% not flying. |
VA Group started the the year with 1850 pilots, now around 750 employed on 737 and 150 on F100/A320 at VARA. Only around 50 took VR from the 737, the rest were redundant from TT/VANZ in April or ATR/A330/777 in October.
The 737 pilots are in varying states of stand down/ part time flying. VARA mostly flying. |
Thanks for the replies. I should have just said "not flying at the moment regardless of employment status". I heard only 30% of Qlink and Jetstar people flying atm.
I will be writing a paper for Uni about CoVID and aviation effects. Just needed some idea of how deep the cuts are. Thanks |
Originally Posted by Climb150
(Post 10925002)
Thanks for the replies. I should have just said "not flying at the moment regardless of employment status". I heard only 30% of Qlink and Jetstar people flying atm.
I will be writing a paper for Uni about CoVID and aviation effects. Just needed some idea of how deep the cuts are. Thanks |
Originally Posted by dontgive2FACs
(Post 10925025)
Suggest talk to the pilot unions (AFAP, AIPA and TWU) to gauge more accurate numbers.
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Originally Posted by Climb150
(Post 10925110)
Thanks but I need some numbers before Christmas! I don't need a concrete source just a broad estimate.
Sometimes the haven of those who are fishing for info.... Making a quick phone call to the union would take five mins and get you some more-accurate, ‘rough’ numbers. Quoting them as the reference would also add credibility to your work. All the best. Feel free to post here. I’m sure many would be interested. |
Originally Posted by dontgive2FACs
(Post 10925189)
As you wish. Having written papers, I’d be weary about quoting ‘PPRUNE’ as your source of data. This is a ‘rumour site.
Sometimes the haven of those who are fishing for info.... Making a quick phone call to the union would take five mins and get you some more-accurate, ‘rough’ numbers. Quoting them as the reference would also add credibility to your work. All the best. Feel free to post here. I’m sure many would be interested. |
Originally Posted by Climb150
(Post 10925002)
Thanks for the replies. I should have just said "not flying at the moment regardless of employment status". I heard only 30% of Qlink and Jetstar people flying atm.
I will be writing a paper for Uni about CoVID and aviation effects. Just needed some idea of how deep the cuts are. Thanks |
Originally Posted by Ladloy
(Post 10925221)
I agree with this. Don't half arse it. The unions will be very happy to help
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3729 pilots.
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Every Australian based Pilot with Cathay Pacific (about 120 Airbus F/O & Captains) have been stood down since march. They will not be returning to work this year.
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Originally Posted by Climb150
(Post 10925306)
I am sure they would but unless the numbers are published in some sort of official publication or journal, it will be considered the same as getting it from an internet forum.
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Some Jetstar bases have been flat out some a bit quiet, Qlink Dash generally OK but I’d say at around 60-70% capacity, shared flying. Cobham generally fairly busy it’s around 80% capacity atm. Network in WA full flying, still can’t get enough schmucks to agree to their craphouse award. Qantas Shorthaul atm 35% increasing to 50% by December, so most doing some flying shared. QF international, forget it A330 maybe 1 roster per year everything else comatosed.
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Originally Posted by Climb150
(Post 10925306)
I am sure they would but unless the numbers are published in some sort of official publication or journal, it will be considered the same as getting it from an internet forum.
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Some on here don't seem to get what I am saying. I can say "unconfirmed sources suggest" or "anecdotal evidence points to".
I have to say this about Australia because the info I need isn't available from sources I can reference. So unless I leave Australia out completely, I have to say something. BALPA and ALPA have published data about pilots lay offs. I can quote this. |
On the bitre website the Domestic Activity Report for August shows that compared to the prior August, ASKs were down 83%. Sounds consistent with the anecdotal evidence I've heard.
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