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Duck Pilot 13th Aug 2020 08:42

PNG and COVID - 19
 
Check this out https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp....ticle/12545602
Quick way to reduce the population.....

Absolute stupidity! They put economics before lives!

Flyer95 13th Aug 2020 09:05

What you fail to realize is third world nations like PNG and many others in Africa and Asia don’t have the vast government resources that we do here in the first world.

For them it’s have their people starve to death or risk catching Covid... I know which option I would prefer if I was in their circumstance.

Mumbai Merlin 13th Aug 2020 10:15

My former haus meri, informs me the situation in POM is very serious.
PMV's (buses) started running again yesterday, over crowding is rampart.
Market area's are selling used face masks only suggesting they should be washed first.

There was an article in the Cairns Post Courier a few days ago; the Cairns hospital was sending their A-Team to Port Moresby to assist.

Duck Pilot 13th Aug 2020 10:21

Flyer, have you ever been to PNG?

Knee jerk reaction, due to the current government destroying all the future natural resources projects.

The country is broke, corruption is an acceptable norm in most areas of business, and then we had the recent botched up drug smuggling enterprise that crashed and burned!

Pinky the pilot 13th Aug 2020 10:53


The country is broke, corruption is an acceptable norm in most areas of business
Hasn't changed a bit then, has it.:rolleyes:

I absolutely loved my all too short time there but always felt sad for the average PNG citizen when I considered what could be.......if only......:{

Square Bear 13th Aug 2020 10:56

Flyer95

“Fail to realize” was perhaps a bad intro to your post as I don’t think that the Duck fails to realise much about PNG.

My thoughts are that PNG could compartmentalise quickly and easy if needed......a country of 800 languages and a a quarter more of dialects.

POM is a concern though.

Mumbai Merlin 13th Aug 2020 11:42

Wake up Prime Minister Marape; you are on a path to being the worst.

chimbu warrior 13th Aug 2020 12:10

https://www.rnz.co.nz/international/...r-pandemic-act

Not exactly setting a great example.

Duck Pilot 13th Aug 2020 12:53

Let’s just wait and see the statistics at the end of the year.

It’s their train set, let them screw it up, they know best.....

Thank God Noah’s Ark can visit all the PNG coastal ports.


Mumbai Merlin 13th Aug 2020 13:27

China is lurking in the background!
Belts and Roads, free money [sort of]

packapoo 13th Aug 2020 22:09


Originally Posted by Pinky the pilot (Post 10859910)
Hasn't changed a bit then, has it.:rolleyes:

I absolutely loved my all too short time there but always felt sad for the average PNG citizen when I considered what could be.......if only......:{


Share your sentiments Pinky......

krismiler 14th Aug 2020 00:33

PNG with its vast natural resources and relatively close proximity, would be of great interest to China. In return for a few major infrastructure projects and a little "consideration" for the politicians, they might get a military base in return.

Mangi Fokker 16th Aug 2020 02:25

The average life expectancy in PNG in 2017 was 64 years of age.
The average age of COVID19 deaths in Australia is 82 years of age. Worldwide it's in a band between 70 and 90 yers of age.
So very few Papua New Guineans actually reach the most critical age for COVID19 deaths.
This may have a positive impact on PNG's COVID19 statistics.

Roj approved 16th Aug 2020 05:29


Originally Posted by Mangi Fokker (Post 10862083)
The average life expectancy in PNG in 2017 was 64 years of age.
The average age of COVID19 deaths in Australia is 82 years of age. Worldwide it's in a band between 70 and 90 yers of age.
So very few Papua New Guineans actually reach the most critical age for COVID19 deaths.
This may have a positive impact on PNG's COVID19 statistics.

Hi Mangi,

By the sound of your handle you might have some “in country” time in PNG, something I would have loved to do, but never got the opportunity for anything but ops out of POM.

I think the COVID death range is more related to physical condition than actual age, so your 60 year old PNG local might be the physical equivalent to our 80 year olds.

I’m very concerned this will cause some serious damage to PNG, but here’s hoping it doesn’t. They are very tough people, so let’s hope they can tough it out.

Bend alot 16th Aug 2020 05:50


Originally Posted by Mangi Fokker (Post 10862083)
The average life expectancy in PNG in 2017 was 64 years of age.
The average age of COVID19 deaths in Australia is 82 years of age. Worldwide it's in a band between 70 and 90 yers of age.
So very few Papua New Guineans actually reach the most critical age for COVID19 deaths.
This may have a positive impact on PNG's COVID19 statistics.

In the US hospitalisation of 0-64 year olds is 331 per 100,000.
65-74 year olds is 207, 75- 84 olds is 347.

The number of people requiring hospitalisation was around 15%, the number requiring ventilators was over 14%.

So while it is true Covid-19 is worse for older people, that statistic reduces when medical treatment is exhausted.

Case rates per age in NY city were only low below 17 years old.

geeup 17th Aug 2020 00:07

More people in PNG die of HIV, TB, Hep A-Z, Malaria, cancer, bush knife on a daily bases.

COVID is nothing. And even if it was Waigani has not cared about the other diseases above so why is COVID any different???

olderairhead 17th Aug 2020 10:15

Eighth lowest testing rate per million out of 215 country's reporting statistics. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Makes you wonder what the true number of infections really is.

But obviously the government don't care as travel restrictions lifted Updated domestic air travel requirements | Loop PNG

Great time to be a flight crew member............. Not.




Come in spinner 17th Aug 2020 11:40

Flyer 95 is correct it is not good but it is the reality. Pakistan is doing the same, as are many other countries.

packapoo 17th Aug 2020 22:08


Originally Posted by geeup (Post 10862840)
More people in PNG die of HIV, TB, Hep A-Z, Malaria, cancer, bush knife on a daily bases.

COVID is nothing. And even if it was Waigani has not cared about the other diseases above so why is COVID any different???

You missed SOO from that list.

(for the uneducated State Of Origin....it's a dangerous place to be particularly for wives when the wrong team wins in this annual 'Strayan series....)

Petropavlovsk 18th Aug 2020 12:46

The incumbent Prime Minister has an agenda; backed by the Chinese.
The proposed rebuilding of the Australian-USA joint naval facility at Momote will never go ahead.


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