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CaptVelocity 29th Jul 2020 07:16

Vortex Air Beech 1900 incident at KI
 
Reports from operators on the ground at King Island: Vortex Air's Beech 1900 (VH-VSO) was reversed into by a truck while pilots were meant to be guiding the driver. Unfortunatley they were taking sefies instead. Structural damage caused to the wing. Hopefully they got some good shots of the impact?

spektrum 29th Jul 2020 23:26

Pay peanuts get monkeys.

Car RAMROD 30th Jul 2020 01:43

If true, several issues at play here possibly.

why did the truck driver reverse towards the plane without guidance?
were they told not to?
Were they not told not to?

Presumably, it was to back up towards the baggage door, which is on the rear left of the plane. The wing should be visible out the driver’s window/mirror.
the canard-thing though is aft of the baggage door and in the trucks left, harder to see.
was it the canard thing that was damaged and not the wing?

marshfly 30th Jul 2020 03:04

CaptVelocity, I'm not sure of the point of your post but it's probably worth fact checking before shooting off rumours. You see many selfies of Vortex pilots getting around? It was a forklift which reversed into the wingtip as the driver wasn't watching where he was going. Vortex have COVID procedures in place which prevents pilots from interacting with ground crews and the onus is on the ground handlers to safely operate vehicles and provide the lookout for the drivers, the whole point being to limit the possibility of spread to a COVID free island.
With the state of the industry at the moment, it's sad to see cheap shots being thrown around still. You'd hope that everyone would be trying to help each other out rather than pulling others down. Having an aircraft damaged is costly to the operator and the customer, no one wins here.

TBM-Legend 30th Jul 2020 04:19


Originally Posted by Car RAMROD (Post 10849173)
If true, several issues at play here possibly.

why did the truck driver reverse towards the plane without guidance?
were they told not to?
Were they not told not to?

Presumably, it was to back up towards the baggage door, which is on the rear left of the plane. The wing should be visible out the driver’s window/mirror.
the canard-thing though is aft of the baggage door and in the trucks left, harder to see.
was it the canard thing that was damaged and not the wing?


For aviation people a "canard wing" is a lifting device 'forward' of the mainplane not aft of it...


4forward8back 30th Jul 2020 06:05

True TBM, but it is far-canard to think of the proper name of that protrusion.

Roj approved 30th Jul 2020 06:12


Originally Posted by 4forward8back (Post 10849243)
true tbm, but it is far-canard to think of the proper name of that protrusion.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

grusome 30th Jul 2020 07:00

Stabilon is it.

spektrum 30th Jul 2020 07:07


With the state of the industry at the moment, it's sad to see cheap shots being thrown around still.
Vortex were a dodgy operator with horrendous practices long before COVID. Just because collectively the industry is suffering a downturn it doesn't mean you stop calling out evil for being evil.

Australopithecus 30th Jul 2020 08:24


Originally Posted by 4forward8back (Post 10849243)
True TBM, but it is far-canard to think of the proper name of that protrusion.

Very very well played Sir.

Car RAMROD 30th Jul 2020 08:56


Originally Posted by TBM-Legend (Post 10849206)
For aviation people a "canard wing" is a lifting device 'forward' of the mainplane not aft of it...

Yes, thanks. And thanks grusome. Stabilon it is.
I had forgotten the proper term; despite having flown the thing once before. :ugh:

The “fugly thing” would also be good to reference it, but I like far-canard more. From this day forth I shall deem it the far-canard!

onehitwonder 30th Jul 2020 09:18

Situational awareness at all levels

CaptVelocity 30th Jul 2020 10:49


Originally Posted by marshfly (Post 10849195)
With the state of the industry at the moment, it's sad to see cheap shots being thrown around still. You'd hope that everyone would be trying to help each other out rather than pulling others down. Having an aircraft damaged is costly to the operator and the customer, no one wins here.

Marshfly, Vortex don’t help anyone out with their shonky operations. This is the 3rd incident in a short period of time. If Vortex want to help, they should pack up and let legitimate operators do their job and stop giving GA a bad name.

evilducky 30th Jul 2020 11:37


Originally Posted by marshfly (Post 10849195)
You'd hope that everyone would be trying to help each other out rather than pulling others down.

Does your employer follow said advice? Have they in the past?

Other threads in this forum would suggest not.

junior.VH-LFA 30th Jul 2020 12:24

Truck reverses into a plane and it’s the pilots fault.

Gold. Absolutely no axes to grind of course.

If a catering truck knocks an A380 does the captain lose his command too?

JimmyDoolittle 30th Jul 2020 15:15

Isn’t that the second damaged wingtip on the Vortex 1900s?
as well as a suspicious “rock strike” on a prop in Bairnsdale that had it parked down there without a prop for a while.
May need to overhaul the SOPs before there is a serious incident.

evilducky 4th Aug 2020 08:15

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...430Z/YMMB/YMLT

Must have had a spare wingtip lying around.


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