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3Greens 23rd Aug 2021 16:24


Originally Posted by Xeptu (Post 11099935)
That's because your a commie, on ya bike mate, your blown

this absolute stroker doesn’t even know the difference between “your” and “you’re”. Doubtful he,or she, could contribute anything of any use to the thread.

Dannyboy39 23rd Aug 2021 18:18

I think the reinfection rate was only like 4% of cases.

Agent_86 24th Aug 2021 01:06

Only 753 cases today :D

Gnadenburg 24th Aug 2021 02:00


Originally Posted by Xeptu (Post 11099935)
That's because your a commie, on ya bike mate, your blown

To the contrary:

I outlined early, Australia's COVID response being a civil defence failure and a template for coercion or defeat at the hands of the Chinese Communist Party. This all exacerbated by foolish State parochialism's who seem to weigh up the economic benefits of a vassal state status with the CCP versus a federated Australia.

COVID is round one with the CCP. Round two will likely be a weakened Australian economy and a deteriorating strategic outlook.

Get vaccinated and hide under your bed.

Xeptu 24th Aug 2021 02:20


Originally Posted by Gnadenburg (Post 11100233)
To the contrary:

I outlined early, Australia's COVID response being a civil defence failure and a template for coercion or defeat at the hands of the Chinese Communist Party. This all exacerbated by foolish State parochialism's who seem to weigh up the economic benefits of a vassal state status with the CCP versus a federated Australia.

COVID is round one with the CCP. Round two will likely be a weakened Australian economy and a deteriorating strategic outlook.

Then if I have made an unfair accusation then I apologise, the thread indeed the site is hijacked by call centre commies with the sole purpose to spread misinformation, divide and collapse our democracy. If that where to happen they will say, see democracy doesn't work, you need our peace keeping forces. not likely to happen I know but that's what they do.

Round two as you describe it would just mean back to how it was 20 years ago before china opened it's population to the world. Not ideal but not catastrophic either.

43Inches 24th Aug 2021 02:41

Can we come back to reality now?

All I'm seeing is some real insight into some paranoid delusions that need to be addressed by a professional.

CCP conspiracies, next will be lizardmen and aliens are making the vaccines. It all feels like we have regressed to the 1950s.

43Inches 24th Aug 2021 03:28

Meanwhile China stomped on Delta and ate it for breakfast....

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...nt-on-steroids

Paragraph377 24th Aug 2021 03:39


Originally Posted by 43Inches (Post 11100247)
Meanwhile China stomped on Delta and ate it for breakfast....

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...nt-on-steroids

43, I’m not sure that I would be believing a) China, and b) Bloomturd. Two sources that have been synonymous with telling many many porkies.

43Inches 24th Aug 2021 04:38


43, I’m not sure that I would be believing a) China, and b) Bloomturd. Two sources that have been synonymous with telling many many porkies.
While I agree with the sentiment, there's obviously some belief in some weird and wonderful things by what is contained in these posts, China and Bloomberg seem credible compared.

WingNut60 24th Aug 2021 04:53


Originally Posted by Paragraph377 (Post 11100249)
43, I’m not sure that I would be believing a) China, and b) Bloomturd. Two sources that have been synonymous with telling many many porkies.

If only they had the "Gold Standard" integrity of Rupert or Nine.

Paragraph377 24th Aug 2021 05:32

Chief health officer Kerry Chant has warned NSW that masks may still be needed 'for years' to battle COVID-19. Woohoo. How exciting that will be! It’s a great day to be a NSW resident.

KRviator 24th Aug 2021 05:57


Originally Posted by Paragraph377 (Post 11100265)
Chief health officer Kerry Chant has warned NSW that masks may still be needed 'for years' to battle COVID-19. Woohoo. How exciting that will be! It’s a great day to be a NSW resident.

She's at least being more realistic and sensible about it than McGoose, Anna Stay-Away or Dan...And from comments of various medico's overseas, she's probably right!

"Zero Covid! Queenslander's haven't given up on it! Look how great we're doing, you can go to school, the pub, etc..." - Anna Stay-Away's comments today...
"Zero Covid! I will not tolerate any Covid cases or deaths in WA on my watch!" - McGoose's comments a couple days ago.
"Zero Covid! My never-ending supply of lockdowns and arresting kiddies in the playground can make it happen!" Dan Andrews' comments today

Then there's the reality of vaccination and actually living with the Delta strain, as demonstrated by several jurisdictions overseas - including the ones that Premier's like McGowan like to overlook because they've got vaccination rates above that to which he agreed he would open the border's, ease restrictions, move to more targeted lockdowns etc..

It is here to stay, it will get in, no matter how hard you try to keep it out, and case numbers will blow out, no matter what you do - unless you plan to lockdown your capital city for every individual case Mr McGowan??

Gnadenburg 24th Aug 2021 08:07


Originally Posted by 43Inches (Post 11100237)
Can we come back to reality now?

All I'm seeing is some real insight into some paranoid delusions that need to be addressed by a professional.

CCP conspiracies, next will be lizardmen and aliens are making the vaccines. It all feels like we have regressed to the 1950s.


To follow up a few minutes later with the below, makes the above the funniest or most Sino-ignorant post in some time. The CCP always stomps out COVID. Along with anyone suggesting otherwise.



Originally Posted by 43Inches (Post 11100247)
Meanwhile China stomped on Delta and ate it for breakfast....


layman 24th Aug 2021 10:36

97+% vaccination rates
 
Reported on the ABCs page "Tracking Australia's COVID vaccine rollout"

As of 24 August, 97.85% of ACT 70+ year olds have had their first vaccination.

If other Australians are as committed, Covid will become (almost) a non-issue

Icarus2001 24th Aug 2021 10:53


Chief health officer Kerry Chant has warned NSW that masks may still be needed 'for years' to battle COVID-19. Woohoo.
Are these the paper masks that the WHO says are not effective? No medical standard used in their production.
Pure theatre.

JustinHeywood 24th Aug 2021 11:39


Originally Posted by Xeptu (Post 11100236)
…[this] thread indeed the site is hijacked by call centre commies with the sole purpose to spread misinformation…

Not so crazy. Certain threads have posters whose main activity seems to be to defend the CCP or Russia, and attack the west.
Indeed Russia is believed to be have been recently busted actively spreading disinformation through social media- not the west is short of useful idiots already.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www....g-57928647.amp





Lead Balloon 24th Aug 2021 21:30


Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 11100406)
Are these the paper masks that the WHO says are not effective? No medical standard used in their production.
Pure theatre.

And I just marvel - actually despair - at the number of people I see with their nose hanging out of top!

Might as well wear it on an elbow.

43Inches 24th Aug 2021 22:47


Not so crazy. Certain threads have posters whose main activity seems to be to defend the CCP or Russia, and attack the west.
Indeed Russia is believed to be have been recently busted actively spreading disinformation through social media- not the west is short of useful idiots already.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www....g-57928647.amp
Not promoting or saying the CCP or Russian government are good guys. However the links are to a Russian businessman, not to Russia in general, yes that is a sort of smoking gun, but the same disinformation comes out of similar businessmen in Australia like Palmer and Co. Just because Palmer is a raging lunatic does not mean all of Australia is. A lot of whacko anti-vax ideas come out of the USA and other "western" places including Australia, and yes there are most likely some underhanded international efforts going on as well. Within Australia we have Neo-Nazi groups and such linked with other organised groups that revel in anarchy and will spread this info without any push from a foreign nation, do not underestimate how much reach and finance these groups can muster. Then you have religious and other groups, that can be just as devious as they know the direct message from "god" can seem like lunatics words so they hide behind false scientific information.

End game is, that's your irrational 10% who are non vaxers. You won't be able to change their narrative, just look out for it and be wary of it.

Do masks work?


The best example I've seen this whole pandemic.

Xeptu 24th Aug 2021 23:17


Originally Posted by 43Inches (Post 11100726)
End game is, that's your irrational 10% who are non vaxers. You won't be able to change their narrative, just look out for it and be wary of it.

It's about 17% and they are not necessarily anti vaxers, they are anti authority the "don't tell me what I can and cannot do brigade"

Gladys is in serious trouble now, the worst thing you can do is wave the freedom carrot at your population. Just within our own ranks those from NSW firmly believe freedom is imminent.
The Premiers must hold the line right up to the moment you change it, no hesitation. If she doesn't do it now there will be riots akin to those we saw in the US on the capital, right when her health system is about to be overwhelmed.

We're still not coming Gladys.


SHVC 25th Aug 2021 00:21

Well QLD and WA have gone to a new low with their political jargon. QLD closing to NSW, ACT and Vic due hotel quarantine issues, guess they’re not fit to cope with covid and WA canceling and not accepting any NSW residents on compassionate grounds. What a mess Australia is, Americans thought Trump was bad look at Aussie politicians.

I really wish NSW would open up internationally and leave QLD and WA behind to keep their own bubble.


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