SOPS/jrfsp,
Are you guys one and the same? Your posts seem to follow each other and always agree on harsh lockdowns and previously how good WA is at “crushing the virus”. Would love to know what your role in the aviation industry is, cause everyone else I know in this industry thinks the moron running WA has been an over-reactive muppet for the last 16 months, and shoulders a lot of the blame for the segregated country we now find ourselves in. The other Premiers had no choice but to follow suit in closing borders to appease their own constituents once they saw what it did for McMaoan’s (thanks Betoota) approval rating. Plenty of things were let slip last year which suggested the border closures are nothing to do with health advice, like WA being a net exporter of tourism dollars. |
How many Australians sacrificed their lives in Vietnam, Europe and Korea in wars against tyranny, socialism and facism..seems strange that this terrified generation isn’t willing to risk anything to be able to go to work or school PS; Vietnam and Korea war was vs Communists, not Socialists, most of Europe is Democratic Socialist based, including the UK, France and Germany. |
Originally Posted by Transition Layer
(Post 11082885)
SOPS/jrfsp,
Are you guys one and the same? Your posts seem to follow each other and always agree on harsh lockdowns and previously how good WA is at “crushing the virus”. Would love to know what your role in the aviation industry is, https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....322108f73.jpeg |
Originally Posted by mattyj
(Post 11082875)
How many Australians sacrificed their lives in Vietnam, Europe and Korea in wars against tyranny, socialism and facism..seems strange that this terrified generation isn’t willing to risk anything to be able to go to work or school
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Originally Posted by Transition Layer
(Post 11082885)
SOPS/jrfsp,
Are you guys one and the same? Your posts seem to follow each other and always agree on harsh lockdowns |
Originally Posted by mattyj
(Post 11082875)
How many Australians sacrificed their lives in Vietnam, Europe and Korea in wars against tyranny, socialism and facism..seems strange that this terrified generation isn’t willing to risk anything to be able to go to work or school
However, you know the first thing they did? They got vaccinated! Although they don't want to see freedoms and opportunities vanish, along with economic wealth, nor do they want to be needlessly infected or be the excuse for keeping the nation locked up. I guess they still see beyond themselves? Unlike the reluctant vaxers. I think the anti-vaxers they'd just like to shoot. |
Originally Posted by mattyj
(Post 11082875)
How many Australians sacrificed their lives in Vietnam, Europe and Korea in wars against tyranny, socialism and facism..seems strange that this terrified generation isn’t willing to risk anything to be able to go to work or school
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This is the middle aged fault, my generation. Power hungry stop at nothing to stay in power. I want this to stop. Make a date if you’re not vaccinated by that date learn how to live/hide or what ever I want to move on and not for work purposes only. I tired of being told I can’t go there,I can’t come in unless I have the tick, You need to wear a mask etc etc etc.
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A Tasmanian man in his 40s has died after receiving his first dose of AstraZenecaHe was a confirmed case of thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS), and his death will be investigated by the coroner.According to an update from the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA), the death was one of two in the last week. The second was a 48-year-old woman from Victoria. Two deaths in the last week and you blokes wonder why there is hesitancy in Australia? |
For the record, I know these lock downs are bad for the industry. ( I spent 35 years in aviation.) But if we have to have them, hard and quick is the way to go. Not like Gladys .. hesitating and not being sure what to do ( egged on by Scomo) to the point where she has now lost control and the situation in NSW could go on for months.
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Originally Posted by Aussie Bob
(Post 11082923)
From the ABC news web site today.
Two deaths in the last week and you blokes wonder why there is hesitancy in Australia? That's a vaccine that is 99.9999 percent safe. You've got to wonder what else these people are hesitant about? |
Since they’re terrified of a virus that kills almost no one stands to reason they will be terrified of a vaccine that kills almost no one
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That's a vaccine that is 99.9999 percent safe. You've got to wonder what else these people are hesitant about? Since they’re terrified of a virus that kills almost no one stands to reason they will be terrified of a vaccine that kills almost no one |
Since they’re terrified of a virus that kills almost no one stands to reason they will be terrified of a vaccine that kills almost no one |
Originally Posted by Aussie Bob
(Post 11082923)
From the ABC news web site today.
Two deaths in the last week and you blokes wonder why there is hesitancy in Australia? |
Its quite simply the political beat up over it last year and the media sensationalising it. Otherwise average Joe wouldn't care at all, like most other vaccines and just get it done. Hence why a good public health program needs the media fully on side, so you can quell most of the attention seekers and headline grabbers.
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Originally Posted by 43Inches
(Post 11083023)
Its quite simply the political beat up over it last year and the media sensationalising it. Otherwise average Joe wouldn't care at all, like most other vaccines and just get it done. Hence why a good public health program needs the media fully on side, so you can quell most of the attention seekers and headline grabbers.
That came out of Sutton and Andrews every presser in March /April last year. We all know about hotel quarantine and tracing was in it's infancy. However they did bend the curve according to WHO protocols. So if that narrative was still in play today, all borders would be open and contact tracing controlling cases under the say 30 mark. However, all the health departments (the bureaucrats) decided to throw all that in the bin and go for suppression hence the anguish we have today. Also some of us suggested back then, Why not isolate the elderly and vulnerable and keep the young ones working. That was without a vaccine at the time. Wuhan strain. Deadly So I will ask that same question today, Why not isolate the elderly and vulnerable and keep the young ones working. Now 70% vaxed over 70yo protected . Delta strain. Not as Deadly. But all comes back to that word suppression. |
Originally Posted by mattyj
(Post 11082957)
Since they’re terrified of a virus that kills almost no one ...
US 625,000+ dead India 420,000 dead Brazil 545,000+ dead Mexico 237,000+ dead UK 128,000+ dead ...
Originally Posted by Aussie Bob
(Post 11082985)
I will let Matty answer this for you :-)
Do you fellows share a bridge or do you deal with those pesky goats separately. |
Also some of us suggested back then, Why not isolate the elderly and vulnerable and keep the young ones working. That was without a vaccine at the time. Wuhan strain. Deadly So I will ask that same question today, Why not isolate the elderly and vulnerable and keep the young ones working. Now 70% vaxed over 70yo protected . Delta strain. Not as Deadly. But all comes back to that word suppression. This year the tables were turned, in a way, Melbourne had learned from harsh reality that they had to stomp on it early and hard, which has worked every-time since. Sydney tried to play politics in the last month rather than deal with it and is now paying the price. If we had 80% vaccinations, no prob, non event, but its the opposite of that presently. |
Originally Posted by Turnleft080
(Post 11083053)
Also some of us suggested back then, Why not isolate the elderly and vulnerable and keep the young ones working. That was without a vaccine at the time. Wuhan strain. Deadly
So I will ask that same question today, Why not isolate the elderly and vulnerable and keep the young ones working. Now 70% vaxed over 70yo protected . Delta strain. Not as Deadly. But all comes back to that word suppression. re-assessed. Until then, we do it the way we're currently doing it. There is still plenty of room for improving the way we're doing it. |
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