Originally Posted by aviation_enthus
(Post 11072038)
..........The rest of the world is laughing at us!!
I have not had any of my overseas friends, expatriate or otherwise, express the contempt that you seem to think is universal. |
Probably 99% of the Aussies I’ve spoken to in the last 18 months are pissed off about the way they’ve been treated by their own country. Plus it’s ironic that Australia thinks it’s the “envy of the world” with their pandemic management. I can tell you with a straight face that’s a load of BS. The rest of the world is laughing at us!! |
I was working overseas in Malaysia for 2 years but made the decision in March 2020 not to stay there during a pandemic so came home in the 2nd week of March just before borders were shut and with a cheap $400 airfare. Admittedly at the time I thought I would be able to return after 1 or 2 months but I do not regret my decision as would much rather ride out a pandemic here. Friends of mine in Asia have got seriously ill from catching Covid possibly left with long term health issues.
Many ozzies stuck overseas can return if they have the money for a First or Biz class airfare and I know people who have done this and then also spent money on hotel accommodation. And of course if you have a boat or private plane you can get back fairly easily. Most boat entry ports other than Thursday Island are operating normally to process international arrivals. So its unfortunately often economic reasons why ozzies are still stuck overseas. ScoMo has his Shark One A330 to fly around in and luxurious home quarantine. For most of the rest of us, saving up for a first class airfare would be the practical way to get home at the moment. |
Hotel quarantine failure after failure.
Vacine rollout failure after failure. State governance failure after failure. Why push on with an approach that is obviously unstable and has been since the IAF? Unjfortunately we are all the passengers on this one way flight. MCD |
Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 11071954)
So this magic 30000 number of Australians wanting to get home has popped again today.
The new international arrival cap is 3035 people a week. So in around 10 weeks, all Australians that want, should be home, right? Overseas Travel Statistics, Provisional, May 2021 | Australian Bureau of Statistics (abs.gov.au) |
Originally Posted by ozbiggles
I'd suggest to you the relatives of the 128, 000 dead UK citizens from Covid aren't laughing....
The fact that your pollies are STILL locking down more than fifteen months after the Pandemic was declared is, quite frankly, laughable... |
I do not regret my decision as would much rather ride out a pandemic here IMHO the way the Australian politicians (especially state premiers) have been carrying on during this pandemic is an absolute disgrace, and the on-again-off-again lockdowns would be enough to drive you mad, so I'm more than happy not to have to put up with that. The same with panic buying in the supermarkets and people abusing health officials at vaccination centres. Of course it's still home, and it's frustrating not to be able to come and go freely, but I made the choice not to return for a visit whilst they still have the quarantine requirements in place for overseas arrivals. It'll probably be next year at the earliest before that will be an option, which means it will have been over 2 years between visits for me, but I know others who have been happy to go home and serve the quarantine time. Good for them, that's their choice. I still think I'm lucky to be in the position I'm in as I know there are many trying to return but for various reasons they cannot, also there are many expats that have lost jobs and some will more than likely never fly again. It's a mad world at the moment and I'm happy to ride things out where I am, but I do miss home. |
Originally Posted by Clare Prop
(Post 11072343)
Not so, because so many are also leaving and coming back. Plus only 39% of arrivals are Australians. So if they could prioritise them a 50% cut would make no difference.
Overseas Travel Statistics, Provisional, May 2021 | Australian Bureau of Statistics (abs.gov.au) So how about we cut out the NZ arrivals and keep the returning aussies at the existing level. That is almost a 50% reduction. Same stats can be used for both sides of an argument. Our politicians are a disgrace in this country! |
There is a certain breed of human (I use human with qualifiers) that are revelling in this crisis..these people come to the fore whenever something like this happens..wartime, pandemics, floods, earthquakes etc etc.
They are the minimum wage earning, or bureaucratic desk holding, utility belt wearing, clipboard holding, fluro vest wearing, 2 way radio carriers. This is their time, this was what they were born to do, they’re f$&king loving it.. They have the authority to tell you to pull up your mask!, keep your distance!, wash your hands!, get your vaccine!, show your vaccination cert!, scan your app!… they sigh, it’s so frustrating, why can’t people just fall into line, “we’re just doing our jobs.” Don’t believe they’re gonna let this opportunity go in a hurry! if ever |
Originally Posted by mattyj
(Post 11072364)
There is a certain breed of human (I use human with qualifiers) that are revelling in this crisis..these people come to the fore whenever something like this happens..wartime, pandemics, floods, earthquakes etc etc.
They are the minimum wage earning, or bureaucratic desk holding, utility belt wearing, clipboard holding, fluro vest wearing, 2 way radio carriers. This is their time, this was what they were born to do, they’re f$&king loving it.. They have the authority to tell you to pull up your mask!, keep your distance!, wash your hands!, get your vaccine!, show your vaccination cert!, scan your app!… they sigh, it’s so frustrating, why can’t people just fall into line, they’re just doing their jobs. Don’t believe they’re gonna let this opportunity go in a hurry! if ever https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-...ches/100262790 |
Originally Posted by Qwark
(Post 11072361)
Did you even read the statistics? 45% of arrivals are from New Zealand. I seem to remember Australia has a travel bubble established so maybe they are not using the quarantine system.
So how about we cut out the NZ arrivals and keep the returning aussies at the existing level. That is almost a 50% reduction. Same stats can be used for both sides of an argument. Our politicians are a disgrace in this country! |
Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer
(Post 11072386)
I suppose the policeman could be one of those 'mouth breathers'... |
Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
(Post 11072391)
And there is the special breed of policeman with his nose hanging out of his facemask while man-handling someone for not wearing mask.
I suppose the policeman could be one of those 'mouth breathers'... |
The point of arresting the woman was, surely, that she may be a carrier of Covid 19 and spreading it to patrons by not wearing a mask, in breach of the law? What, then, is the point of a policeman getting up close and personal with the women, without proper PPE?
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Here is the 4 stage plan that Scomo announced yesterday -
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Originally Posted by Capn Rex Havoc
(Post 11072405)
Here is the 4 stage plan that Scomo announced yesterday -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSXIetP5iak |
Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
(Post 11072403)
The point of arresting the woman was, surely, that she may be a carrier of Covid 19 and spreading it to patrons by not wearing a mask, in breach of the law? What, then, is the point of a policeman getting up close and personal with the women, without proper PPE?
Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
(Post 11071838)
I agree.
But I don't agree that tolerating numerous stupid things is a justification for continuing to tolerate all of those stupid things. |
If the policemen who arrested 'Sister Mary Jane Rainforest I Don't Wear Masks' from Bowral all contracted the Delta strain of Covid 19, would we all be aghast and wondering how that could possibly happen?
Why are so many things done in such a half-arsed way in this country? I don't really blame the individual policemen. I blame their leadership. Sending them in, without proper PPE, to arrest someone for not wearing a mask mandated for the purposes of reducing the spread of a highly infectious strain of Covid 19 is like sending them without weapons to a reported armed hold-up. |
Originally Posted by Qwark
(Post 11072361)
Did you even read the statistics? 45% of arrivals are from New Zealand. I seem to remember Australia has a travel bubble established so maybe they are not using the quarantine system.
So how about we cut out the NZ arrivals and keep the returning aussies at the existing level. That is almost a 50% reduction. Same stats can be used for both sides of an argument. Our politicians are a disgrace in this country! |
Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
(Post 11072427)
If the policemen who arrested 'Sister Mary Jane Rainforest I Don't Wear Masks' from Bowral all contracted the Delta strain of Covid 19, would we all be aghast and wondering how that could be possibly happen?
Why are so many things done in such a half-arsed way in this country? I don't really blame the individual policemen. I blame their leadership. Sending them in, without proper PPE, to arrest someone for not wearing a mask mandated for the purposes of reducing the spread of a highly infectious strain of Covid 19 is like sending them without weapons to a reported armed hold-up. |
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