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galdian 21st Jun 2021 23:40

Assuming the feds have their fingers in aged care in ALL the states and territories then why did they concentrate all their incompetence on Victoria?
We're not just talking "one or two more than other states" we're talking hundreds.
You'd think the aim of the feds would be to ensure all states get a fair and equitable share of the misery - but not so, another fed fail! ;)

Ladloy 22nd Jun 2021 01:28


Originally Posted by galdian (Post 11065983)
Assuming the feds have their fingers in aged care in ALL the states and territories then why did they concentrate all their incompetence on Victoria?
We're not just talking "one or two more than other states" we're talking hundreds.
You'd think the aim of the feds would be to ensure all states get a fair and equitable share of the misery - but not so, another fed fail! ;)

I'm not sure you've heard of the Swiss Cheese Model? The negligence is at all levels but the focus tends to be myopic.


The second wave had quarantine issues (fed issue handballed to states) which then got out of hand due to poor tracing (state issue) and the safeguards weren't in place in aged care (fed issue).

The private aged care facilities are a federal responsibility while public is state. 651 deaths were private aged care.

Fuel-Off 22nd Jun 2021 05:31

Our canuck cousins have the right idea.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...e-after-july-5

Seeing as our health system is modeled from theirs, maybe our borders policy could at least do the same. Trudeau has at least set dates and a road map out of all this. SloMo? We're not in a race...

Fuel-Off :ok:

jrfsp 22nd Jun 2021 05:41


Originally Posted by Fuel-Off (Post 11066056)
Our canuck cousins have the right idea.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...e-after-july-5

Seeing as our health system is modeled from theirs, maybe our borders policy could at least do the same. Trudeau has at least set dates and a road map out of all this. SloMo? We're not in a race...

Fuel-Off :ok:

I didn't know they were so far ahead in their vaccine roll out! 75% fully vaccinated by end of July is impressive - we might be at 5% by then....

Bend alot 22nd Jun 2021 05:42

Are we importing Cabin Crew?

neville_nobody 22nd Jun 2021 05:54


Seeing as our health system is modeled from theirs, maybe our borders policy could at least do the same.
Who controls the territory borders in Canada though?

Cafe City 22nd Jun 2021 06:29


Originally Posted by Bend alot (Post 11066065)
Are we importing Cabin Crew?

I wondered the same.
Story didn't quite add up.
"Dr Young said the woman travelled from Portugal to Australia on an Emirates flight to go on to work as cabin crew for other airlines." (Brisbane Times)

Initial inference was that she was a flight attendant on the inbound flight. But was she? If not, why is she arriving here to "work.... for other airlines"? Or do they mean operating an onward EK leg?


PoppaJo 22nd Jun 2021 06:34

I would say that is a HiFly (Portugal) charter set to be operated from Brisbane in the coming days. Crew positioning

Cafe City 22nd Jun 2021 07:35


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11066090)
I would say that is a HiFly (Portugal) charter set to be operated from Brisbane in the coming days. Crew positioning


Oh! Ex ADF lease??

Bend alot 22nd Jun 2021 09:45


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11066090)
I would say that is a HiFly (Portugal) charter set to be operated from Brisbane in the coming days. Crew positioning

The CHO said not EK crew and did quarantine and to work for other "airlines".
Not another airline.

PoppaJo 22nd Jun 2021 10:04

Right however I am not aware of any other airlines that Portuguese cabin crew members would be parachuted into Oz to operate for, aside the obvious contender Hi Fly Portugal.

601 22nd Jun 2021 13:44


The CHO said not EK crew and did quarantine and to work for other "airlines".
Not another airline.
There other international flights other than airlines.

Fonz121 22nd Jun 2021 21:31

Meanwhile over in New Zealand, not only do vaccinated Air NZ crew coming back from high risk destinations no longer have to isolate at all as of June 30, but every staff member will get $1000 in shares as a reward for their work during the pandemic.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/125485069/air-nz-giving-employees-1000-worth-of-shares-forecasts-significant-loss

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300336892/covid19-all-vaccinated-air-nz-crew-now-exempt-from-isolation

mattyj 23rd Jun 2021 01:45

Someone out of Australia has arrived in Wellington with the trans Tasman bubble and tested positive for Covid after traipsing around the city for a couple of days..no doubt our Dan Andrews/Justin Trudeau facsimile - Jacinda will be apoplectic with panic at this point trying to decide what level of flagellation she needs to subject Wellingtonians to (not to mention the rest of New Zealand)

jrfsp 23rd Jun 2021 02:24


Originally Posted by mattyj (Post 11066606)
Someone out of Australia has arrived in Wellington with the trans Tasman bubble and tested positive for Covid after traipsing around the city for a couple of days..no doubt our Dan Andrews/Justin Trudeau facsimile - Jacinda will be apoplectic with panic at this point trying to decide what level of flagellation she needs to subject Wellingtonians to (not to mention the rest of New Zealand)

I was surprised how long they took to pause the bubble with NSW, considering they paused it with WA and QLD after 1 case......

If there are cases in WLG then the whole bubble will go down.

SOPS 23rd Jun 2021 03:41

WA has just shut completely to NSW. Only people with special permits will be allowed in and then only with 14 days Q. Here we go again!

Updated at 11.45 am WST.. people that landed at 11.15 am in Perth from Sydney are being sent back.

jrfsp 23rd Jun 2021 04:20

ABC also reporting SA has closed its border to NSW

SHVC 23rd Jun 2021 04:38

McClown has also requested that WA still get their fair share of vaccine. Would this mean if all of WA was vaccinated he would never close again? After all being vaccinated means the virus does not affect you as bad.

SOPS 23rd Jun 2021 05:08

And now Tasmania is partly closing to NSW.

SOPS 23rd Jun 2021 08:15

And QLD to Greater Sydney


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